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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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bad2dabone

is James McCarthy the standard of player we are after? I think 15m for him is nutso.

speedboatchase

bad2dabone wrote: »

is James McCarthy the standard of player we are after? I think 15m for him is nutso.

I think he'd be a great signing and there's a huge upside to him at 22. £15m sounds crazy though, Wigan will bite their hand off.

bad2dabone

speedboatchase wrote: »

I think he'd be a great signing and there's a huge upside to him at 22. £15m sounds crazy though, Wigan will bite their hand off.

Perhaps, although I’m fairly confident we’ve got the whole young midfielder thing covered with our squad 
15m from everton would imply that Fellaini perhaps is on the move. /sigh

[Deleted User]

j14 wrote: »

Ok...so things have turned a litte sour with the Suarez deal so who else should we be looking at?

Rooney...IF he leaves Utd the only place I can see him going is Chelsea, I can't see him going abroad. I'd say if we just left him up front...no worrying about coming in MF to collect the ball that he could get 25 league goals this year. Fergie had him all over the place last year to accomodate RVP (boo...hiss...burn him........witch!).

Remy...I'm not too sure if the outcome of his alleged rape case is yet known but he is already living and settled in London had a good first season and is now down in the Championship plus we were linked with him in the past. Could be got cheap enough I'd say.

Michu...we would probably have to pay over the odds for a player that Swansea bought for 3m but he has played in the Prem and done well. A new "Fox in the box" a la Jeffers perhaps.

Just some other options from the English Leagues that we could be looking at.

Rooney - yes
Remy - last resort
Michu - no

For me.

Other possibilities around Europe we're yet to be linked to but we could hold the smallest of hopes that deals are being done far more secretively than Liverpool are allowing us to...:
Jackson Martinez from Porto
El Shawaaray from AC Milan
Lars Bender from Leverkuson
Erik Lamela from Roma

Obviously all long shots but who'd have thought we'd be in for Suarez?

As much as I like James Mccarthy 15m for him instead of 22m for Fellaini doesn't add up to me.

bad2dabone

i wouldn't be surprised to see a bid going in for Lars Benders brother Sven.
He's a fine player too, if not as good, and a good bit cheaper. Wengernomics.

speedboatchase

AdamD wrote: »

Rooney - yes
Remy - last resort
Michu - no

For me.

Other possibilities around Europe we're yet to be linked to but we could hold the smallest of hopes that deals are being done far more secretively than Liverpool are allowing us to...:
Jackson Martinez from Porto
El Shawaaray from AC Milan
Lars Bender from Leverkuson
Erik Lamela from Roma

Obviously all long shots but who'd have thought we'd be in for Suarez?

As much as I like James Mccarthy 15m for him instead of 22m for Fellaini doesn't add up to me.

Those are some good suggestions but the secret transfer dealings theory for our lack of activity doesn't add up for me. It's no longer in club's interest whatsoever to keep news of bids secret, especially when making them public could attract a bidding war.

2ndcoming

bad2dabone wrote: »

is James McCarthy the standard of player we are after? I think 15m for him is nutso.

In the current market 15m is spot on for McCarthy. He was in the top 5 rated young midfielders in Europe's top 5 leagues last season (think that was from ZonalMarking but can't be sure) on pass accuracy / interceptions / chances created.

Under-rated probably because he plays for Ireland despite him being our best player for the last year. He's not what we need at all though. If Everton are going in there they must be planning on off-loading someone.

[Deleted User]

gosplan wrote: »

Yeah, he's totally off the mark.

This one has at least 8-10 new pages of whinging per day.

I think there's been one post suggesting we'll be relegated (it may have been sarcasm:rolleyes: ) and I don't recall anyone else saying Spurs will win every match.

[Deleted User]

McCarthy for €15million? At least someone's enjoying how little Arsenal have done so far this summer.

wandatowell

James McCarthy is worth the 15m imo

[Deleted User]

Where does he fit in our starting 11?

Sergio

Although its worrying that we havent signed anyone yet i think not many other teams havent signed any players either apart from Man City and Liverpool but the market is very slow this year overall so i still thing we will wenger will pull off a few good signings yet.

astonaidan

Quazzie wrote: »

If suarez is the only player we sign I'd consider this transfer Window a failure.

Hence why I said regarding

tayto lover

Sergio wrote: »

Although its worrying that we havent signed anyone yet i think not many other teams havent signed any players either apart from Man City and Liverpool but the market is very slow this year overall so i still thing we will wenger will pull off a few good signings yet.

You must be joking??

http://www.betinf.com/england_transfer.htm

speedboatchase

tayto lover wrote: »

You must be joking??

http://www.betinf.com/england_transfer.htm

Wow...

Fuzzy_Dunlop

tayto lover wrote: »

You must be joking??

http://www.betinf.com/england_transfer.htm

And how many of those transfers would be of any interest to us? Fernandinho, Jovetic, Negredo, Schurrle, Paulinho, and maybe Mignolet?

[Deleted User]

Of interest?
None.........

Unless you're talking about fantasy football

emergingstar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where does he fit in our starting 11?

This right here

Instead of just buy every player available lets discuss why we should buy him

He wouldn't fit into out team and with everyone fit wouldn't make the bench

tayto lover

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

And how many of those transfers would be of any interest to us? Fernandinho, Jovetic, Negredo, Schurrle, Paulinho, and maybe Mignolet?

Hardly any but that's not the point. There is plenty of business being done by other clubs.

[Deleted User]

Dunno why we didn't go for Jovetic at that price

farna_boy

tayto lover wrote: »

Hardly any but that's not the point. There is plenty of business being done by other clubs.

So we should buy for the sake of buying to please the fans?

Didn't we just get rid of all the deadwood? We don't need them to replace them that quickly.

[Deleted User]

AdamD wrote: »

Dunno why we didn't go for Jovetic at that price

Again I wonder how much Higuain is worth on this new scale.

tayto lover

farna_boy wrote: »

So we should buy for the sake of buying to please the fans?

Didn't we just get rid of all the deadwood? We don't need them to replace them that quickly.

Rubbbish.
We should buy because we need the players and GOOD ones.
19 points behind United last year and we are not going to close gaps without investment. If we're in it then it should be to win it.
We are lightweight in many areas of the field. A few bad injuries and we could be out of it before it warms up.

[Deleted User]

farna_boy wrote: »

So we should buy for the sake of buying to please the fans?

Didn't we just get rid of all the deadwood? We don't need them to replace them that quickly.

So Suarez was a well thought out planned transfer?:pac:

[Deleted User]

farna_boy wrote: »

So we should buy for the sake of buying to please the fans?

Didn't we just get rid of all the deadwood? We don't need them to replace them that quickly.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85710114

Actually just to improve on that post, if we got rid of all of the deadwood then this is our squad:
Szczęsny
Sagna Mertesacker Koscielny Monreal
Wilshere Arteta Cazorla
Walcott Giroud Podolski

Subs:
Fabianski
Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Gibbs,
Ramsey, Diaby, Frimpong, Miyaichi, Coquelin, Rosicky,
Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sanogo, Campbell.

So yes, we really do need to sign some players.

Mickeroo

Deleted User wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85710114

Actually just to improve on that post, if we got rid of all of the deadwood then this is our squad:
Szczęsny
Sagna Mertesacker Koscielny Monreal
Wilshere Arteta Cazorla
Walcott Giroud Podolski

Subs:
Fabianski
Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Gibbs,
Ramsey, Diaby, Frimpong, Miyaichi, Coquelin, Rosicky,
Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sanogo, Campbell.

So yes, we really do need to sign some players.

Campbell and Coq are off on loan so you can take them off there too.

We're only 3 or 4 players from having good depth imo, which is what makes it even more frustrating.

I think Ryo/Frimpong/Sanogo will be grand as back up but you would be wanting at least 2 players ahead of them in the pecking order.

Squad looks much tronger if you add in just three players which I've picked based on rumours/availability at an estimated cost of £69m

Scez
Gamez Mert Kosc Gibbs
Wilshere Capoue Cazorla
Walcott Suarez Pod

Back up: Sagna, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Ox, Giroud, Ramsey, Arteta, Diaby, Sonogo, Ryo, Rosicky, Frimpong

Injury Crisis: Eisfield, Gnabry, Zelalem etc.

I think that squad woukld make a good go of competing this season and they wouldn't have to spend beyond the "war chest" to get it either imo.

wandatowell

I think we need another left sided player.

Gibbs can fall apart at any given moment, So that leaves us Nacho as our only constant LB (and he's injured now ain't he?).
With Gervinho gone/going we are gonna need someone to backup Podolski.

Basically a left foot player and 3-4 more to shore up the squad.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

tayto lover wrote: »

Rubbbish.
We should buy because we need the players and GOOD ones.
19 points behind United last year and we are not going to close gaps without investment. If we're in it then it should be to win it.
We are lightweight in many areas of the field. A few bad injuries and we could be out of it before it warms up.

The point is that we should only be interested in good players to replace the dead wood, as you say, and there hasn't exactly been a load of transfers involving players of the quality we should be looking at, which makes your comment about all these other transfers moot. Deals involving worse players are easier to get done and we shouldn't care that Crystal Palace signed Kevin Phillips on a free.

[Deleted User]

Isco signed for less than 26mil, I was shocked we didn't even sniff around him.

Frisbee

I'd be happier with Ramsey instead of McCarrthy in the team tbh.