Sensor wrote: » Yes, more fruit and veg (including brocolli) and less sugar and fat. Now i need more protein and fat and still less sugar . . . .i think!
Sensor wrote: » For breakfast id have all bran and a drink of fizzy water and maybe a cod liver oil omega 3 suppliment tablet. Then at 10.30 id have 2 oatmeal biscuits, a low fat lemon cake, a packet of walkers sunbites, an orange and a cup of tea with milk and no sugar. At lunch id have something like one of those uncle bens rice lunch pots, mainly the sweet and sour one as it is low fat naturally. I now the sugar is high tho. Or id have uncle bens rice done in the microwave or heinz tomato soup and a ham and cheese sandwich. Sometimes a microwave chicken and cheese panini. Also sometimes the Mash Direct lunch pots done inthe microwave. I usually get the carrot and parsnip mash or bangers and mash. Id also have a banana, a muller yoghurt (rice or fruit corner of crunch corner) a Go Ahead fruit slice or yoghurt covered slice and that would be basically it. For dinner i wouldnt fry anything or do stir frys that often. I would grill steak burgers and have boiled potatoes and side salad. If i have chips theyre oven chips. I would again drink fizzy water. And I take an all round vitamin just after dinner. This time im on Wellmans Vitabiotics for men. Later on I might have some nuts and chocolate.
thegreatiam wrote: » This is the biggest load of horse**** ever. Youre veg may taste like crap. not all veg And your kids hate your veg so you need to hid it. That works great when the metro want a new filler story to fill the rag but kids eat what you feed them, feed them good food and they will eat good food. Not being able to give veg to your kids is an excuse.
kevpants wrote: » I'll leave you in a room with a sprig of brocolli and my 3 year old for one hour. If you can get her to eat it I will pay you €1000.
kevpants wrote: » Young, single childless, idealistic and self absorbed health fanatics rolling their eyes at what parents feed their kids is a big bug bear of mine.
seosamh1980 wrote: » Funny, parents who maintain that the world falls apart and nutrition (as well as everything else) ceases to exist or matter when they have kids are a bugbear of mine. When I was a kid I was given my dinner, often with gross things like cucumber in it and I ate it, because my mum made it very clear that the alternative was to be very hungry until breakfast. Kids soon get over petty dislikes of food when some actual discipline and common sense is used by their parents. I just ate cucumber in my lunch because even though I still hate it I know it's good for me and learned to not be a spoiled brat and eat what I'm given.
thegreatiam wrote: » breakfast! man youre parents were soft. I remember refusing to eat lamb and mash potato which sat in the fridge til next evening where I ate it while they dined on pizza.I hate my parents
seosamh1980 wrote: » Funny, parents who maintain that the world falls apart and nutrition (as well as everything else) ceases to exist or matter when they have kids are a bugbear of mine.
kevpants wrote: » Who said anything about nutrition ceasing to exist? I'm simply trying to inject some realism into this circle jerk. Or maybe I just need to "read the stickies" to my toddler. Then she'll get it. Have a browse of a few parenting forums with exasperated parents struggling to get enough food into their kids because of how fussy they are and see if it re-evaluates that it's as simple as dropping a plate of veggies in front of them. Obviously families who live off exclusively beige food are a big problem and there are issues there but I hear people giving out about kids getting bread! FFS we all know bread's not ideal but it's bloody hard to fuel an active kid without it. Also see the aforemntioned parsnip chips. I still laugh when I think back to that night in the Pants household.
Oryx wrote: » This thread is about an adult. And this is a tiny bit off topic, but good discussion nonetheless. I live with one of the fussiest eating children ever born. Would gag on mashed potato and baby rice as an infant. I know the pain of feeding a fussy child.
SarahC91 wrote: » The exact same happened me and I was eventually diagnoses with a Vitamin B12 deficiency
doctorwhogirl wrote: » I know this thread has been through the ringer, but this is my take purely on the day you just posted. I definitely think it's way too carb heavy. 360g of carbs is an awful lot especially because you are getting most of those carbs from refined, processed sources (bran flakes, go ahead, white bap, white rice, wedges, biscuits, crisps, chocolate) The more I've investigated and changed my diet the more I've come to realise just how different people are in terms of the foods that they can tolerate. I personally feel I'm less able to tolerate carbs than others-they cause lethargy and bloating etc... in me. All the above carbs I've just listed from your day are giving you massive sugar/carb spikes and then you're crashing. Is your wife eating the exact same as you? As everyone has said on here more fats/protein will give you a slower release of energy. IN that day you only had 54g of protein (probably more as the tesco pork chop's nutritional information had protein missing) but not a lot. I'm a 5ft 4 woman and I had 150g or so today. You can see just how much sugar you're getting from that journal entry too. Anyway, I think most of the advice has been mostly accurate so far. I would get the doctors visit in but blood tests etc... take weeks. You can change your diet tomorrow.
Sensor wrote: » Hi Doc, you had 150g protein?? I heard it was related to body weight and what you want to acheive in exercise? What do u eat thats so high in protein if u dont mind me asking? I think im going to get a few eggs in and start there. Boil them and have them as snacks seems a good idea. Ill have to check the accuracy of that attachment now because there should be some protein in pork chops? Oh and reduce carbs based on your advice.
doctorwhogirl wrote: » You don't have to cut carbs. And even reduce is the wrong word, but you need to get them from better sources- brown rice, whole grains, sweet potatoes, vegetables... Well I'm 135lbs or so so I'm slightly over but I exercise a good bit so need good levels for recovery. I had egg whites with my porridge this morning (sounds odd, but it works!), tin of tuna with my lunch, biggish chicken breast for dinner and then these oat and egg white pancakes with my extra protein for supper and that's mainly where it's coming from. Also got some from yoghurt today too but it's more or less equal in terms of protein vs carbs.
Sensor wrote: » Ok so my problem is carbs. Im taking the wrong ones and its spiking my blood sugar levels. I need to get more complex carbs in there then and then see. Do you eat complex carbs at night to keep you going til morning? Thats maybe why i feel hungover because im either starving myself totally or overloading on sugar.
doctorwhogirl wrote: » Look, this is all just advice, I don't know what the exact problem is because there may be a medical issue at play. I'm judging from a non-expert position purely on your food. But yeah, cutting out a lot of that stuff should in theory make a difference. I was just posting in a thread in Nutrition and Diet forum about the oatbran pancakes and the recipe is there. I have them with peanut/almond butter and I'm perfectly satisfied until morning. I'd be hungry for my breakfast but that's just because i LOVE my breakfast more than actual hunger!!!
Discostuy wrote: » I knew someone in a similar condition which turned out to be an underactive thyroid problem. Might be worth speaking with a GP and narrowing down the possible causes. Alcohol has a huge affect on energy and tiredness. Drinking a JD every night will tire your body, but the sleep you get won't be the same as a normal sleep. Rather than recharging energy, your body will be working to break down the drink and repair the body. You'll most likely find you'll walk up groggy and equally tired.
Jellybaby1 wrote: » Typical of my symptoms pre-diagnosis for gluten intolerance, eating and feeling tired, continual yawning, and dropping weight. At one stage I dropped to less than 7 stone (44kg). Scared the heck out of me at the time. They tested me for everything, thyroid, diabetes, etc., etc., before they found Coeliac. Maybe you will update us when you've seen a GP and had some tests done. Edit:On your other posts in September 2012 you said you had been to the GP 6 months earlier for diabetes tests but you didn't say what the results were. Also you said that you didn't want to waste the doctor's time if the problem was merely your bad diet. I also notice that the posters then were also encouraging you to go to your doctor. Here we are in July 2013 and you are still suffering with the same tiredness. Just go to the doctor.
Stheno wrote: » I had similar problems in the past and it was poor diet, I simply wasn't eating the right food. I don't have gluten intolerance, but a diet of heavily processed carbs caused me to feel sluggish and tired all of the time. My diet needs a lot of work still compared to some one here, and I suffer from a small appetite, but I found that moving to more basic non-processed foods a godsend, and shifted eating processed foods to the evenings. If I were to eat the likes of the chicken wrap the OP had for lunch today at lunchtime, I'd be asleep an hour later.
Sensor wrote: » I did go to a doctor and all the tests came back negative. As i said i didnt want to be wasting a doctors time.
sensor wrote: I tried to research the whole not getting enough fat or protein of carbs. I spoke to the other half and she agrees. I eat what she eats and she sees me getting tired very quickly and often. She says i cant function at all on an empty stomach, which may be typical of most men!
syklops wrote: » No, its not typical of most men. A healthy man, can skip breakfast and lunch and aside from feeling a bit hungry can work and function perfectly fine. I remember one day, I was in the Army Reserves and we went on a day of outdoor manoeuvres, walking through fields, carrying rifles and ammunition. I had been in a hurry in the morning so skipped breakfast, was really looking forward to lunch when we got word we had left with out it. :mad: All I got was a cup of tea. We were told to suck it up on move on. Come dinner time I was really hungry, but none of us were falling asleep or losing concentration or anything. If your wife is saying you can't function on an empty stomach then something is amiss. I'm not sure if you answered this already but whats your height and your weight?
thegreatiam wrote: » So the diet you posted in the image is that your new diet or your old diet? If it's your old then that's fine, you know what to change. If that is what you are currently eating then you deserve to be tired. Bran flakes, go ahead bars, uncle bens microwave meals, large white baps, uncle bens again, mccain wedges, low fat cake, biscuits, crisps and chocolate. 0 portions of vegetables and 1 pork chop and 2 sausages. Exactly how do you think you have followed advise given? Frankly youre an idiot if you think youve adjusted anything. Half of your food choices were named as bad choices and yet you are still eating them. I hope you do feel tired and low energy still. Because it will continue until your food choices change. What kind of muppet thinks they can live of microwave meals twice a day and chocolate and not feel tired. There is not one single example of healthy food this diet. Yet it's been explained to you countless times over countless months and the information is freely available and you have been told how to use it. At this stage you are wasting your time. Keep bitching that you feel tired, cos im simply laughing at you now.
