frank reynolds wrote: » hypocrite. so you're saying it's ok to bring in a scruffy hairy messy dribbling dog into a pub and not a child? what if your dog goes berserk and attacks someone? what if someone has a phobia of dogs?
Karlitto wrote: » I disagree, Maybe allow kids between 1 and 3 for lunch/dinner, then they go bye bye. However, 1 thing I do have to say is, bringing a kid to a pub to watch a match is incredibly irresponsible... you have 2 teams, so therefore 2 sides of support, alcohol, tension is quite likely, and so is a fight, doesn't seem like a good idea to bring a kid to that environment.
Karlitto wrote: » Please tell me how I am being a hypocrite? This just shows how pig ignorant you are. My dog is clean, well behaved and doesn't dribble, oh and he is on a lead, which is more than I can say for some of the bastard kids I see in pubs. As I said, he mostly just sits under the table until someone comes over to pet him. Why would my dog go berserk and attack someone? Clearly you do not understand dogs if you think they are wild animals who spontaneously attach people for fun. But in either case, my dog is on a lead. Furthermore, if someone has a fobia of dogs, then don't come to my table, problem? Oh, and by the way, there is no law saying you cannot bring your dog into the likes of a pub (except for the "restricted breeds". It is up to the management to say "no dogs" etc.
Cienciano wrote: » OP, 3 or 4 times you said you don't have a problem with kids in the pub if they're quiet, it's just the ones running around and knocking stuff over. I agree. But why ban all kids from pubs? There's already rules in place for this. A publican can just warn the parents if they're not controlling their kids, then ask them to leave if they won't comply. Simple. A fight is likely?? LOL, I've saw a lot of matches in pubs and never seen a fight. A pub is perfectly safe, I'd say your child has a much higher chance of getting injured in a playground than at a pub during the day
OldNotWIse wrote: » I find a problem with bringing the dog is the amount of kids it actually attracts. Drives me mad. I'm like, "she's a fuucking dog, not a toy". Just because she is small. I find a lot of parents however are responsible and will say, "do you mind/is it ok if he/she pets your dog" and we can do the intoduction etc. But the knobs who shout, "ah look at the bow-wow (yes bow-wow) Johnny, look at 'im!!" while waving hysterically in front of the poor animal. Now that is what should be on a lead lol
Karlitto wrote: » Lift the smoking ban, ban the kids, financial problem sorted.
Karlitto wrote: » Yep! I agree, yet another reason to ban the kids. But you are right, dogs are not toys. And no, I don't mind a responsible parent (I say responsible here because any parent who lets their kid freely wander over to a stranger's dog who they don't know, should not be a parent) asking if it is ok for the kid to say hi. Kids should NEVER be let anywhere near an unknown dog without RESPONSIBLE adult supervision. Whilst they are domesticated animals, they are still animals, and of course pulling out of its ears or smacking it on the head (as a lot of kids do thinking it is "rubbing" the dog) will piss it off.
the_syco wrote: » Not really. There should be more dog friendly pubs that ban kids, though.
Karlitto wrote: » That's it, I have a new life goal, I will own a pub which doesn't allow kids, but does dogs that are well behaved! Woop!
Ush1 wrote: » Roaring success with all the soft drinks and crisps that dogs eat.
Karlitto wrote: » First thing, see my previous post about a pub and being a "public" house. You are wrong.
Secondly, a kid running around screaming and shouting in a pub IS out of control, and it is the parents fault admittedly, not the child's. Would you be saying the same for some adult doing the same? I think not.
ScumLord wrote: » It is a house open to the public, it is a public house, that's what the intention of them is. Just like a cinema is a place where people go to watch films a public house is a place where the general public go to meet. But like you say it is still a business under private ownership and like we've already pointed out the children are worth more to the business than the guy sipping on a pint of guinness. Of course not, because they're adults, they've done all there running around and learning how to socialise. Kids run around and shout wherever they go. It's normal behaviour for them. During the day I have no problem with pubs being family friendly places. A drinking pub isn't going to be a family friendly place but if the pub accommodates children and many do then there's no point in complaining about it. That's the business model of the pub. There are plenty of other pubs that don't accommodate children and are just old man drinking holes. find one of them.
ScumLord wrote: » It is a house open to the public, it is a public house, that's what the intention of them is. Just like a cinema is a place where people go to watch films a public house is a place where the general public go to meet.
Dr_Brian_Cocks wrote: » People don't go to a pub to meet. It's where people go to drink.
old hippy wrote: » And there's plenty of pubs that aren't kid friendly and still manage to be vibrant, fun and good to mingle without being stereotypical old man drinking holes
OldNotWIse wrote: » what happens if (like me being a twenty something y/o female) you dont like old man drinking holes? Also, you're forgetting about the people who dont go because there are kids there. Is a lilt and bag of taytos worth more than an evenings custom?
Karlitto wrote: » Right folks, I am off for the day, catch you tomorrow.
Karlitto wrote: » That's actually a very narrow minded post, that "guy sipping on a pint of guiness" is most likely a local/regular who over the years is going to pour far more money into the pub than a family who go for a "sunday dinner" once in a blue moon.
That's the thing, a pub won't refuse a child entry before 9, at least I have never found one. Adults can't get away from children, a pub should be one of the places they can, after all, what has a pub got to offer a child?
Why should I sit there and have my day ruined by some spoiled kid?
Anyone wrote: » Without alcohol there would be no kids.
Karlitto wrote: » In pubs, you have people who drink, smoke (both cigarettes and other things) and quite often during lets say, a christening, communion, well, any of the big events where you would expect to find kids, you are most likely going to have at least one scumbag who is part of the group who will go into the jax and snort a line. bringing a kid to a pub to watch a match is incredibly irresponsible... you have 2 teams, so therefore 2 sides of support, alcohol, tension is quite likely, and so is a fight, doesn't seem like a good idea to bring a kid to that environment.
