JimmyCrackCorn wrote: » I don't like taytos.
The writers wrote this scene after they had read reviews by critics disliked the level of cursing and suggested it was not necessary for the plot or character arc. David Simon (the creator of the wire) and his writing team have and decades worth of experience working alongside police that they thought the characters should be as realistic as possible and didn't want tone down the language for TV. So, this scene is just one big **** YOU to the critics who can't watch grown up TV (CSI fans).
mikemac1 wrote: » The writers were experienced, this wasn't their first series They already had Homicide;Life on the Street and The Corner and others
studdlymurphy wrote: » ADD is a makey uppy disorder and yet some people on social welfare get extra payments because of it.
Father Damo wrote: » The Wire is poorly written overrated rubbish. I normally love this type of tv show but the dialogue and cliched stock characters are atrocious tbh. I mean really.
cloptrop wrote: » You honestly shut your computer down because you read something you didnt agree with . You shouldtry the sickipedia website , youd slam the hinges off your laptop.
flutterflye wrote: » That, and I was very tired! If I read something I really don't agree with, I get very http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/llog/duty_calls.png
pickarooney wrote: » So completely the opposite of the common perception of ADHD :pac:
IrishAm wrote: » How can you not love Omar? Himself, Slim, Wee Bay and Bodie are some of the best characters ever.
FulhamIreland wrote: » Rubberbandits are rubbish!
Father Damo wrote: » I tried my hardest, despite being bored off my hole I managed to sit through the first 5 or 6 episodes of appaling script and stock characters before deciding all the worlds tv critics, Barck Obama, and general popular opinion are plain wrong, and this stuff is actually crap(alcoholic womanising cop with a fraught family situation- jesus, really. There were too many of them in popular culture by 20 years ago). The acting isnt all bad or anything- the guy who plays Bodie was pretty good in Oz, for example. But I just find an awful lot of it either boring, pretentious or downright cheesey, lazy writing. Especially seeing as they were capable of writing something of the quality of The Corner. One has to also remember that the tv show Glee is critically acclaimed. Which basically means tv critics are all gobsh1tes.
Mardy Bum wrote: » The difference is The Wire is academically acclaimed and studied in places like Harvard. Its a masterpiece. It seems a lot of it has gone right over your head. The Corner was easy to follow because of the documentary style filming and limited story arc, The Wire on the otherhand takes patience and some level of intellectual interaction unlike most other shows. It is best described as a Greek tragedy with the institutions being the gods and bureaucracy of theses institutions running peoples lives. Simon went above and beyond what TV had thought possible and incorporated more illusions to Shakespeare, Sophocles, and modern American literature than ever before in a TV show, a medium for the masses. .
Father Damo wrote: » Pretentious nonsense. All of it. College courses? Please. There are college courses available in the study of Tupac lyrics, even though lyrically speaking he was not the greatest or most socially conscious lyricist of his era. IMO there are certain aspects of pop culture where there is a snobbish pretentious attitude with the whole thing. The ending of The Sopranos, for example. It is fashionable to claim the fade to black ending was brilliant. To say that Tony was killed, but it was better to be done out of sight. Again- pretentious crap, seeing as Tony being killed would have been absoloutely out of nowhere and completely unrelated to the plot. You have completely avoided the two main points I made and all- stock characters and tedious dialogue.
Father Damo wrote: » Pretentious nonsense. All of it. College courses? Please. There are college courses available in the study of Tupac lyrics, even though lyrically speaking he was not the greatest or most socially conscious lyricist of his era, yet was the best selling and most critically acclaimed of said era. IMO there are certain aspects of pop culture where there is a snobbish pretentious attitude with the whole thing. The ending of The Sopranos, for example. It is fashionable to claim the fade to black ending was brilliant. To say that Tony was killed, but it was better to be done out of sight. Again- pretentious crap, seeing as Tony being killed would have come from absoloutely out of nowhere and completely unrelated to the preceding plot 9with his own crew decimated and having made peace with NY, plot wise he was in no major danger of being killed by anyone). The theory that the writers were too lazy to do a proper ending and fancied leaving the option open to milk a few more quid out of the franchise 10 years diwn the line seems lost on most people. You have completely avoided the two main points I made and all- stock characters and tedious dialogue. People who are smart enough to bulk buy, weigh, cut and profitably sell drugs and evade detection, but who also think Ronald McDonald is real and the nugget inventor still works in the kitchen.....I think it was at that point I really started to question what the **** I was watching. Lazy lazy writing.
cocoshovel wrote: » Nearly every single movie made in the past 5 years is overhyped ADD hollywood slackjawed and nothing but shítty jokes and explosions bullshít!
Real Life wrote: » you have the sopranos ending all wrong. theres a good reason the screen goes to black. If you watch the scene closely you will see. the camera keeps going from tonys perspective looking up when someone walks in the door to looking at tony. when meadow walks in the door the next shot should be through tonys eyes looking up at her but it goes black because he sees nothing hes been killed.
Mardy Bum wrote: » The difference is The Wire is academically acclaimed and studied in places like Harvard. Its a masterpiece. It seems a lot of it has gone right over your head. The Corner was easy to follow because of the documentary style filming and limited story arc, The Wire on the otherhand takes patience and some level of intellectual interaction unlike most other shows. It is best described as a Greek tragedy with the institutions being the gods and bureaucracy of theses institutions running peoples lives. Simon went above and beyond what TV had thought possible and incorporated more illusions to Shakespeare, Sophocles, and modern American literature than ever before in a TV show, a medium for the masses. Oz is an excellent show but it is no where near the same level of excellence as The Wire. The Corner is also excellent but is a much simpler show with very little going on underneath.
pickarooney wrote: » This kind of guff (and it's bizarrely always the same, copy and pasted comments about books, chapters, Greek tragedies and the like that get trotted out) convinces nobody, particularly anyone who has watched the series and actually formed his/her own opinion. Bit of a Freudian slip there too, I think.
Mardy Bum wrote: » No not particularly, I used illusions but could have easily have used "references". I can understand somebody having an opinion on it however an informed academic critical view of it is completely different. In terms of what the show has accomplished no tv show has came close.
coonecb1 wrote: » Yep, my unpopular opinion is that I loved the Wire as well. I do suspect a lot of people say they love the Wire in order to feel intellectually superior. I completely understand why people wouldn't like it though. It's not instantly entertaining, and I can honestly say it took me until halfway through the 3rd series before I began to recognise the intricate web of characters they built up. From that point on it's an absolute treasure to watch. (Provided you use Wikipedia to fill you in on what's you missed!)
Gummy Panda wrote: » Anyone who doesn't like The Wire is a bushmills drinking protestant!!