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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

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Yakult

magma69 wrote: »

I wouldn't blame the owners for not giving Kenny the funds for another big signing. 3 out of 4 have failed to impress thus far.

Adam has impressed recently and Henderson is also showing more promise through the centre than on the right. Carroll is the only worry.

magma69

corcaigh07 wrote: »

jaysus first I'm impressed with Gary Neville on Sky and now Neil Warnock about Suarez. What the hell is goin on????!!!

My hatred of him has seriously dwindled since he became a pundit. Neville talks quite a lot of sense. It's a tad disappointing because I really enjoyed hating him.

corcaigh07

jaysus first I'm impressed with Gary Neville on Sky and now Neil Warnock about Suarez. What the hell is goin on????!!!

magma69

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Id say the owners might take some convincing to part with a large sum to buy a striker. They have an asset they feel is worth 35m. The depreciation on that will be savage at the moment

I wouldn't blame the owners for not giving Kenny the funds for another big signing. 3 out of 4 have failed to impress thus far.

daithijjj

Who is this chap masquerading as Neil Warnock these days?

retalivity

For once Colin does not live up to his name!

mike65

WTF? Stop saying nice things Neil! :pac:

Crazy Horse 6

monkey9 wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/11/luis-suarez-liverpool-qpr

Don't usually have any time for Warnock but he is talking complete sense here. You know if the FA don't get a handle on the Xenophobic side of English football and that includes the press then you will eventually see the top players turn their backs on the premiership.

paddy kerins

monkey9 wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/11/luis-suarez-liverpool-qpr

Good man Neil

monkey9

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/11/luis-suarez-liverpool-qpr

J. Marston

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Imo we'll see him back at Newcastle in January never mind the Summer. I'd say we'll get 20m for him. Big loss but imo Kenny has already made his mind up on him. After we sell him back he'll start banging in the goals again for Newcastle it's just the way of things.

Why would Newcastle take him back? He's a local lad and all that but they have Ba now who has been a big success for them, I doubt they'd want to unsettle him.

th3 s1aught3r

The Chessplayer wrote: »

I think it's fair to say he's staying put. The question is, though, would the owners be prepared to spend big money on another new striker while Andy Carroll is still at the club. And how would it help Carroll (other than taking the spotlight off him)? A new striker would only mean even less chances for Carroll to play.

Id say the owners might take some convincing to part with a large sum to buy a striker. They have an asset they feel is worth 35m. The depreciation on that will be savage at the moment

The Chessplayer

mixednuts wrote: »

No one would pay near £15 never mind £30 million

I think it's fair to say he's staying put. The question is, though, would the owners be prepared to spend big money on another new striker while Andy Carroll is still at the club. And how would it help Carroll (other than taking the spotlight off him)? A new striker would only mean even less chances for Carroll to play.

ilovelamp2000

GBX wrote: »

Yes of course... did you read what I wrote? "He could turn into that style of player" ... not he is that type of player.
I meant poacher :rolleyes:

Feel free to rub my nose in it when Carroll turns into a pacy, instinctive finisher and all round club legend

Will I Amnt

mixednuts wrote: »

He aint going anywhere

He is with is less than a year

He was bought more as a project than a player

No one would pay near £15 never mind £30 million

Wouldn't be so sure on the first point,yous need somebody to put the ball in the net and it's not happening with him.

KD would be mad not to be thinking about bringing someone in this January which would push him further down the pecking order.

Selling Carroll would be taking a big hit financially but at the moment a goal scorer is probably all thats standing in your way of champions league money.

On your 3rd point,I don't get it.
A project would be a 15/16 year old kid nobody has heard of not a 22 year old with premiership experience.

GBX

amiable wrote: »

In fairness Ian Rush wasn't just a poacher

Oh im well aware of that. I said poacher based on previous posts mentioning we need that type of player.

amiable

GBX wrote: »

Yes of course... did you read what I wrote? "He could turn into that style of player" ... not he is that type of player.
I meant poacher :rolleyes:

In fairness Ian Rush wasn't just a poacher

amiable

And of course it's the same Glen Johnson Chelsea tried to buy again when Liverpool bought him

amiable

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Benayoun wasn't a bad player, he wasn't given a chance IMO and he suffered that Achilles injury, ye would have Meireles back in a heart beat, he is better than the likes of Spearing, Henderson etc...Il give you the Torres one, thing is we can afford to take the hit if he fails.

Elephant graveyard? Joe Cole and Glen Johnson spring to mind;)

So do you think Liverpool could get a refund from Chelsea on the transfer fee for Joe Cole and Glen Johnson.

GBX

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

What ?

Did you ever see Ian Rush play ?

Yes of course... did you read what I wrote? "He could turn into that style of player" ... not he is that type of player.
I meant poacher :rolleyes:

willmunny1990

DDC1990 wrote: »

Doesn't the "Bigger Club" have to beat the "Feeder Club"?

You are just our Elephant graveyard, where we send players who dont have the bottle to be at Liverpool anymore.

Benayoun, Meireles, Torres... Some purchases

Benayoun wasn't a bad player, he wasn't given a chance IMO and he suffered that Achilles injury, ye would have Meireles back in a heart beat, he is better than the likes of Spearing, Henderson etc...Il give you the Torres one, thing is we can afford to take the hit if he fails.

Elephant graveyard? Joe Cole and Glen Johnson spring to mind;)

Leiva

Ahh now come on some of the talk about Carroll on here is ridiculous .
Now im not his biggest fan but jeez ..

He aint going anywhere
He is with is less than a year
He was bought more as a project than a player
No one would pay near £15 never mind £30 million

I wouldn't be majorly upset if he was sold but to be written off like he is on here this eve is madness

ilovelamp2000

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Ya never no with ye being our feeder club and all;)

Are you proud of giving us something like 65m+ for three players who've done next to nothing for you ?

Seems a bit stupid if you ask me.

The Chessplayer

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

What ?

Did you ever see Ian Rush play ?

I actually wondered if that was a United fan just taking the p!ss winding us up. If Carroll is the next Ian Rush then Spearing is the next Zinedine Zidane.

amiable wrote: »

Maybe if he scores a few goals against Chelsea at Anfield Roman might get out the cheque book again

A good World Cup and 'Arry Redknapp might come in for him.

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Imo we'll see him back at Newcastle in January never mind the Summer. I'd say we'll get 20m for him. Big loss but imo Kenny has already made his mind up on him. After we sell him back he'll start banging in the goals again for Newcastle it's just the way of things.

I'm not sure if Kenny's thinking along those lines. Similar situation to the Keane affair in that he didn't fit into the system. But in that case Rafa totally cold-shouldered Keane, whereas Kenny seems to be quite fond of Carroll.

bookie basher

The Chessplayer wrote: »

The new owners appear to be rolling in it so maybe we can take the hit on Carroll. How much do people think Carroll would fetch if we flogged him in the summer?

the thing is theres very few teams interested in him who actually have the money to buy him,
man utd, chelsea, arsenal, spurs, man city wouldnt touch him
the bottom teams in the premiership dont have the moneyto buy him
its a midtable team, which is his level, like aston villa,stoke, fulham, newcastle who could afford him, you would be lucky to get 10million for him now

DDC1990

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Ya never no with ye being our feeder club and all;)

Doesn't the "Bigger Club" have to beat the "Feeder Club"?

You are just our Elephant graveyard, where we send players who dont have the bottle to be at Liverpool anymore.

Benayoun, Meireles, Torres... Some purchases

amiable

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Ya never no with ye being our feeder club and all;)

Well seeing as Liverpool are a much bigger club than Chelsea that's fine

missingtime

I seriously doubt that Carroll will be sold,if anything we will buying more players to support him.

willmunny1990

amiable wrote: »

Maybe if he scores a few goals against Chelsea at Anfield Roman might get out the cheque book again

Ya never no with ye being our feeder club and all;)

Crazy Horse 6

The Chessplayer wrote: »

The new owners appear to be rolling in it so maybe we can take the hit on Carroll. How much do people think Carroll would fetch if we flogged him in the summer?

Imo we'll see him back at Newcastle in January never mind the Summer. I'd say we'll get 20m for him. Big loss but imo Kenny has already made his mind up on him. After we sell him back he'll start banging in the goals again for Newcastle it's just the way of things.