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Exactly, these "peace talks" are not real. Firstly, if Russia wanted to stop the war, they can do it at any time. Just announce a ceasefire and Ukrainians will stop shooting immediately. Secondly, Putin feels that he can squeeze more concessions if he holds out for longer. To force Putin to stop the war, there must be an escalation. Either Ukraine suddenly starts to retake significant chunks of territory — for that they need a huge infusion of weapons, or the EU should become reasonably aggressive — shoot all suspect drones spying on airports and military bases, block all oil tankers from Russia, arrest suspicious "research" ships loitering around undersea cables, deploy the antiair defenses to create a buffer zone near the EU borders and shoot down any Russian planes, missiles and drones close to the EU borders.
On Facebook most of them are bots/remote workers writing from stolen accounts. Some of them spam multiple identical messages under any topic related to Ukraine.
Meanwhile at the front, it's being noted that Russian meat is being sent towards inevitable death without even helmets or any body armour in bigger and bigger numbers… some are sent out even without a rifle, and their sole job is to gather the guns & ammo from their recently composted comrades to re-distribute to the next wave of soon to be dead meat.. Apparently 4 out of every 20 going out might have a helmet/armour… the rest have to scavenge what they can from the death zone.
Then there are the runners (or camels as they are known), who are sent out with no gun or armour, only supplies to try and bring forwards.. The Ukranians say they are usually spotted & killed within seconds of emerging, and that it's too easy to pick them off, but they remind themselves if these runners get through, it means Ukranians can die so it's an easy target to aim for…
Anyway, Putin rejected the U.S./Ukraine deal did he? Ok then so how/when is Trump going to punish Ukraine for this insubordination? because this will be on anyone except Putin…
Oh believe me I’m on the same wavelength - I look at it occasionally - usually whilst sitting on the jacks 😀- it’s tripe in the main but things like recipes etc it can be good - but yeah, this wasn’t the normal troll dump stuff- this was “official” elected representative spouting a load of lies - I’m sure plenty of Americans at least are soaking it all up and believing it
Yiu made two obvious mistakes there
I had a twitter account for sports results for about 6 months and even that was nasty. I have no other social media.
The world would be in a better place if individuals curated their own information sources rather than allowing social media companies do it for them.
The ecosystem currently is designed to amplify bad actors/conspiracy nonsense/idiots
Not a go at you personally but my personal dislike of Tik Tok got me typing!
Trump is a gangster who is trying to see what advantages he can accrue for himself in 'making peace'.
He doesn't give two **** about Ukraine or Europe, which 'was formed to screw the US' according to him.
At this stage you can effectively ignore social media as any sort of a yardstick for public opinion. If one was to take just the "Irish" angle on the socials; Conor McGregor would be president, we'd be out of the EU, Irish people would be on the streets calling for pograms and we'd be number one fans of Mother Russia. It's utter scutter basically. Much of it VPN'd from places like India, Africa and "East Europe".
There are many bad actors, state and private enterprise, setting the various stages online and handing megaphones to the parties they support, while upvoting the useful idiots.
In Soviet times the Kremlin co-opted and directly and indirectly supported various fringe groups in the West to sow doubt and destabilise same. Peace movements, hardline Left and Right wing groups etc. They run the same script today as it's both cheap and effective as a way to sow doubt in free societies. Which of course are allowed doubt in the first place. They've added in WEF/Globalist conspiracy idiots, though any conspiracy will do. EG antivax "big pharma" types tend to be Kremlin supporters too. It's even cheaper today with weaponised social media with the added spice of looking more like a majority viewpoint.
Put it another way; even in the face of it being obvious bollocks it has sowed some doubt in you…
The Senate Republicans overall tend to be more pro Ukraine. The term is 6 years there so less fear of Trump though still some.
A MAGA senator came up on my TikTok feed yesterday explaining why Ukraine is at fault over the war in the first place - it’s not limited to just unemployed idiots - this was a serious attempt to sway people away from supporting Ukraine
Considering he said yesterday that he’s ready for war with Europe, I held out zero hope - maybe I’m just too cynical in my old age
In fairness, I get pretty sleepy after a round or two of golf as well .....
Good list !
You forgot the part where Trump, Vance and other US sources will tweet cryptically about a deal being very close, great productive meetings, significant progress and so on. Sometimes even announcing ceasefires.
Just prior to the last step of Russia eventually gaslighting them.
Rinse and repeat indeed.
At the start of a Cabinet meeting just after noon ET on Tuesday, President Donald Trump made his seemingly obligatory reference to “Sleepy Joe” Biden.…….Even as his Cabinet was assembled to engage in one of his favorite activities – singing the praises of Trump – he repeatedly appeared to doze off.
At the start of a Cabinet meeting just after noon ET on Tuesday, President Donald Trump made his seemingly obligatory reference to “Sleepy Joe” Biden.
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Even as his Cabinet was assembled to engage in one of his favorite activities – singing the praises of Trump – he repeatedly appeared to doze off.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/02/politics/sleep-trump-biden
I don't take much interest in this 'peace' deal. It is just a football all of them are playing.
I do kind of wish the various media groups would finally clue in to the fact that while Donnie is in the picture all of these "talks" are essentially Russian-driven pantomime with a sprinkle of Donnie's now-dead Nobel Prize ambitions.
Donnie's White House lacks leadership when it comes to a strategy….because it lacks a leader. Donnie inhibits the office…but he has no plan or opinion beyond what will give him personal kudos or enrich him. So thanks to that the various characters the US sends over to Moscow do so with little in the way of objectives or requirements. Probably little more than "Go get a Deal!" from Mr. Art of the Deal™ on the way out the door.
So the following happens:
It's a wasteful merry-go-round of non-diplomacy, but it keeps running because Donnie still wants his "peace" kudos, and the Russians live in increasingly desperate hope that one day Ukraine might say yes and save them from an eventual disintergration of the Russian state.
I suspect that these talks with keep happening and we'll have many "Istanbuls" right up until Donnie leaves office, but that nothing will actually come of it.
It seems there was no Agreement in Moscow yesterday. This time Kushner was with Witkoff.
Different opinions on the presence of Kushner. Sources before the meeting said that unlike Witkoff, Kushner likes to take notes. Maybe this way there will be some verification of what was said.
Critics though see it as more evidence of the Trump admins corporate goals from these talks.
Trump should give Ukraine the tomahawks now in response to Vladimir rejecting a peace deal, but he won't. I know others have said it, but the only way this ends is if he is made to realise he can't win on the battle field. The tomawhawks would be a good start to forcing that realistation. We saw how he sudddenly made the phoney gambit to Trump when he feared the Americans were going to give them to Ukraine.
The Betrayal of Ukraine, impressive article by Mark McInerney.
There was a wave of them on Boards yesterday and noticed similar comments elsewhere. Not the usual anti-NATO crowd - it was a "dem foreigners" shower. Definitely mobilised or dodgy.
BBC Putin rejects deal.
is that social media inclusive of the RU throll farms and the Orwell basement???
Kushner is we’re schoolboy looking and has a luck of being caught looking at very bright headlights,. While Stephen always has the look of a very compliant individual with that lapdog look. Their looks/ ‘stare’/ stance alone does not inspire me to have confidence in them as negotiators in this very serious matter in front of them
Maybe the above is the very reason that Trump chose them as his representatives to ‘ negotiate with Putin.
I find the Putin /Stephen Wirciff meetings highly unusual . Are the meetings at this level held at pres to pres level? Should Stephen not be having these negotiations with Lavrov and feed the outcome back to both pres?
The Ru negotiators ,because they come from a very DIFFERENT set of ‘negotiating rules/ different understanding of what is true/ different ideology/very experienced at deflection / trick of coming up with impossible conditions / skilled at drawing out negotiations/ skill at threatening opposition/ Eric, etc, etc, etc’ , CONTINUE TO RUN RINGS AROUND THE US negotiators. All of the above allows Putin to continue to ‘inch ‘away for Ukr land.
Putin puts ABSOLUTLY no value on his soldier / equipment losses as he thinks that he can out manoeuvre Ukr on this front
In his mind it will all be worth it when he is ‘left ‘ with at least the Donbas, Crimea and Luhansk Oblasts.
Ru needs a win so the following idea. Trump could ‘promise’ Putin that he will pump billions into the RU economy, repair what Ukr destroyed, do massive trade deals , help it the extract its rear earth, etc, wealth , have returned all its ceased assets and not be responsible for the damage it has caused in Ukr IF, IF, IF, Ru stops the war immediately and withdraws back to the pre 2014 boarders within one week.
The above plan should be shared with the Ru and at least it’s a document for ‘discussion’
Russia HAS NOT THE SOLE RIGHT/FRANCHISE on coming up with challenging proposals/ ones with laying down ‘very tough’ conditions.
The above plan has big wins for both sides and significant losses for both sides
Well people of that view tend to get banned here, plenty of pro russian fanatics about, they tend to be trump fans also, either way the vast majority of people aren't, but are less likely to be shouting about it on social media.
Disappointing news from Moscow.
I would have thought that getting Putin and Witkoff in a room together would have led to an immediate ceasefire + sustainable peace solution agreeable to all. Especially with Jared Kushner being there too.
Oh well…..
may the ‘party/fireworks’ continue
Sure Trump's "peace plan " had more about money than anything else when you read through the 28 points I think it was .Europe just has to take the lead and side line America as much as they can till that country wakes up and comes to its senses.
From The Telegraph ...Russia to win the war, possibly Ukraine to ultimately win the peace
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/putin-now-driving-seat-155235808.html
A fair point- it’s taken some time for Europe and the world to get the measure on Trump - I think they’ve done that now - praising Trump as “the man” would certainly put him in a difficult situation - if he truly is the all powerful Oz, then why not kick Putins butt? 😀
Unfortunately I think Trump wants to get into bed with Putin - who knows he may already have.
