https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
I was managing some investments for a family… name of Pahlavi.
I never knew the source of their money…. until I got a phone call from higher up.
I realised later on.. it was one of the sons.
Ridiculous sums of money involved.
The IDF did react on Oct 7th. They mobilised attack helicopters and Merkava battle tanks. They were used on multiple occasions during the day - the helicopters in particular were reloaded multiple times.
But Iran have been involved in Gaza for decades. They aren't that easily separated, and you're not really in any position to dictate what people should or should not discuss.
There's also an entire military forum to discuss military stuff in, but nobody has told you to go there
Under forced Israeli rule in the WB do you think the Palestinians are being treated fairly?
Not at all and never did I indicate otherwise. It's beyond awful what's happening in Gaza. I'm just getting a bit sick of all the lazy argument points I keep seeing on these threads.
You can call out what Israel is doing as wrong and keep a level head with your posting. Folks are going off the trolley in here with the emotive over the top language. It just comes across as hysterical.
Iran just launched one of it's latest ICBM missiles which is very similar to the Russian Oreshnik
Oddly many others don't think like you. Organisations calling it genocide include Amnesty, Human Rights Watch,
Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF etc and the ICJ said it -
"found that some statements from senior Israeli officials calling for cutting water, fuel, and aid, in tandem with their actions, have amounted to direct and public incitement to genocide."
That's the '' Democracy '' many espouse on here.
But you are free to disagree and i'd like to hear your explanation of why it is not.
I don't need the condescending history lesson, I'm well aware of the facts. It's about the cynicism, the lies, the contempt for people of different ethnicity or religion, Netenyahu and his gang of thugs are not far off the worst criminals of the 20th century in their approach, and the IDF are murdering Palestinians women and children just as gleefully as the Germans murdered Jews in their day, and the Israeli people are as complicit as the German population war. A pathologically ill nation obsessed with revenge and war
The nuclear watchdog does not believe Iran was trying to develop a nuclear weapon, its chief tells Sky News.
"We came to the conclusion we could not affirm there is any systematic effort in Iran at the moment to manufacture a nuclear weapon," says Rafael Grossi, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)
I wonder is that what Khamenei was referencing with that comment yesterday?
Thankfully it's still only (!) a MRBM/IRBM. Needs another 3,500km range to really be an ICBM.
Still, there's a hell of a lot within 2000km of Iran!
Reminds me of the '' Weapons of Mass Destruction '' that didn't exist. Netanyahu has been shouting to the US since 1992 regarding Iran being armed with nuclear bombs.
How long between launch and impact?
This was first made in 2009
Its one of the core rules of boards.ie to stick to the topic. There is another thread related to Gaza.
This is not that hard to follow. But for some it appears rather hard.
Mod - warned for back seat moderation
Probably just a warning.
Killing Israels in many instances
It is not.
Grossi also pointed out that Iran is the only non-nuclear armed country in the world with that level of enriched Uranium.
They weren't building it up for absolutely nothing and there's no civilian application. EDIT: No civilian application for the sheer quantity I mean.
So while I can accept Iran isn't or wasn't building a bomb right now, it's also perfectly reasonable to say they were clearly eyeing that pathway.
Most of American strategic ambiguity on this matter is in Trump’s head. He doesn’t have the faintest notion as to what he is doing or will do.
Trump on iran tonight:
he again looks for "unconditional surrender" and says "then we go blow up all the nuclear stuff" (presumably post surrender)
"for 40 years they have been saying death to America, death to Israel, death to anybody else that they didnt like"
'they were school yard bullies"
This is Iraq 2003 all over again. I suppose the only difference though is that a lot of people are on to what the Zionists and the Israeli fanboys in western governments and media are up to.
Bibi was pushing the same lies about IRAQ's WMD too. Katz was recently bragging that the Iraq war was really fought for Israel. We also have the US intelligence community saying in their latest assessment they don't believe Iran has a weapons programme. I would trust the opinion of US Intelligence over that of a serial and corrupt liar like Bibi. Yet we have posters quite happy to just parrot whatever he says. You can be sure most of them believed the lies about Iraq's WMD too.
The Israeli media are absolutely gagging for the US to join their 'war'. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen - if they are so desperate for American involvement, it would suggest they are privately rather / very worried what way things will go without it happening and without regime change in Tehran.
It really isn’t.
Regarding 'unconditional surrender', this seems to be the same tactic that Trump uses everywhere, i.e. an extreme opening position to where anything more in the middle is considered an acceptable compromise. He's already done this several time in the first (long, long) 5 months of this presidency:
'We want Canada to become the 51st state'
'We want to buy Greenland'
'We want Iran to surrender unconditionally'
It's easy to forget in the unrelenting news turnover which Trump generates that this is a standard move for him. That's not to say it's fitting presidential language (it's not) or that it's clever (it's not), but it's a predictable Trumpian routine.
They're not worried about how things will go for them without US involvement. They're worried that without US involvement they'll lose a once-in-a-generation chance to topple the regime and destroy it once and for all.
The current conflict itself is already lost for Iran without US intervention.
But Israel probably doesn't have the means to achieve what it would consider a decisive end to a near 50-year proxy war, eg complete, blanket destruction of the nuclear programme or toppling of the regime.
There is no such a thing as a 'pre-emptive' strike in international law, only a 'reactive' one (that is when a country has already been attacked or is about to be). Both the Iraq fiasco in 03 and the attack on Iran last week come into the category of illegal activity and aggressive war mongering.
Bannon was saying it will split maga if Trump does take America into the war. So much for Donnie not wanting to be involved in foreign wars.
Huge risks for the regime if the US fails to come on board and Khameni remains in power. If they claim total 'victory' over Iran and announce the war is ending, how will possibly be able to claim that Iran still poses a threat to them in three months, six months, a year or two year's time?
As long as Iran continues to fund proxy groups to attack and destablise Israel and publicly shouts about the destruction of Israel, Israel will consider it a threat and treat it as same.
If the Iranian regime survives it will be interesting to see what approach they will take after suffering such a crippling defeat.
Maybe they'll quieten down and consider other pathways for their wellbeing and the wellbeing of their country. Maybe not.
I mean the Eyptian public generally hate Israel, but Israel and its neighbor Egypt have had peace for 40+ years. Iran's fight with Israel is a problem of its own making.
