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It demonstrates no such thing.
How do you "string people along" without strings? The sham talks are the strings and of course it dupes enough people who really should know better to serve its purpose and is merely a pretext for the Russian propaganda machine to peddle the lie that Russian has any real interest in any sort of lasting peace in Ukraine.
It is just a means to buy time and disarm and weaken their opponents and after all Putin has done with regard to Ukraine and other treaties and agreements to credit them with any kind of good faith in negotiations beggars belief.
This is the same Russian administration which has flat out lied multiple times in public about the contents of previous agreements and who signed what.
So many lies in one paragraph
Where to even start?
Is that the new tactic? Just flat out lie lie lie
No mental gymnastics here. War began in 22 zero contact since then. Russia announce they want talks send their negotiators. So that means they don’t want peace or to talk. Okay.
Putin is one of the biggest and most murderous criminals on the planet, start from that point and everything becomes clear.He saw some advantage in doing what he did, thats why he did it, whether it makes sense to us or not.Next week, he will do something else. You are dealing with a psychopath.
Took out 3 air targets and catastrophic failure trying to engage 4th.
On the plus side a a Russian ammo warehouse in Crimea went boom
Ukraine lost another F16 last night. On board malfunction while dropping bombs. Pilots survived.
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Then why has he refused to show up to the “meeting of leaders” he himself proposed and instead sent junior officials who are not empowered to negotiate anything as he is the dictator who started this war
The mental gymnastics friends of Russia are doing to deflect from Putin’s epic diplomatic fuckup are hilarious
Ah lads.
The fact that he initiated the talks demonstrates that they want to talk. If it’s stringing people along then why make the suggestion in the first place ?
@Kermit.de.frog the only rockets Russia are making are rockets they deliberately fire at playgrounds to kill young kids
Bold visited the aftermath of a Russian attack on a playground
What sort of scumbags deliberately target playgrounds in residential areas with long range missiles?
Becasue its all just stalling tactics.
When Putin suggested a meeting in Istanbul , Trump , shortly after that that he might attend. The following two points in relation to this - FROM THE RUSSIAN PERSPECTIVE - are, IMO , are key to Russias non interest in treating the proposed talks as in any way serious.:-
(1) when Putin announced the Istanbul meeting he knew that Trump was spending a few days in the Middle East - a short plane hop from Istanbul. If he will only deal with Trump to find a solution to the conflict he NEVER - in public anyway- asked Trump about he attending the Istanbul meeting also
(2) Trump , shortly after the Putin announcement re the Istanbul meeting gave a very strong indication that he might attend if he could be of ‘some use’. There was no indication from Trump that he may not go - all he needed was a brief comment from Putin that ‘I will go then’. Putin obviously declined/ ignored the opportunity. It was effectively was a clear invitation from Trump - T rump would have loved the limelight / photo opportunity presented
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When I see Putin or Lavrov & Co. on tv I change channels. I'm not interested in what they have to say. Haven't listened to them in years…
The kid was kidnapped from Ukraine, the rocket only exists in a propaganda poster for gullible westerners who hate their way of life
Have I got that right?
This is what Putin is trying to recreate.
Now we just need to wait for the vatnik storytellers to rewrite history, they'll say Zelenskyi isn't interested in peace and has offended Trump. And something something Boris Johnson again.
Anything to distract from the fact that Russia can stop the war anytime by ending their illegal invasion.
Professor analyst guy on Prime Time said that Putin sending a bunch of minor officials to Istanbul shows he is not remotely serious about any sort of negotiations with Ukraine - it was just a cheap and cynical PR stunt.
Something brewing
It demonstrates that the Russians are not taking peace seriously
The Russians have been stringing this along for years (while their supporters and contrarians make excuses)
To date, Putin has had no intention of peace. He has bombed the country 24/7 since Feb 2022.
King Putin would surely never do such a thing. King Putin considers you heard wrong.
Putin publicly proposed a meeting of leaders last Sunday and then chickened out
I don’t see that. They looked for the talks sent their negotiators to the talks 🤷♂️
Because it's a pretty clear indication that they're not serious about negotiations....
Congrats
Victory in 46.8 years so
I don’t know why the everyone is getting their knickers in twist that President didn’t show up. The Russian’s have sent their negotiators to the talks.
Medinsky was part of the last talks in 2022 if that’s who they want to negotiate so be it.
Nothing on daily ISW reports or Ukraine the Latest pod
Things going that bad that Russian propaganda now has to invent lines on a map
And he just led the Parades on May 9th. Lol
Quite the birthday present. He turns 70 next week.
Trump gave Putin an out saying Putin won't turn up because he, Trump, is not going to show up. This is an excuse on the level of "The dog ate my homework".
