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Oh definitely nothing to see here..... definitely haven't dropped explosives that are set to go off in a weeks time when the ship is long gone
If Putin ended the war tomorrow there wouldn't be a single person out marching for it to continue or calling for Putin to be impeached, they would tie themselves in knots to agree with whatever he says, there is no one worse they are just playing up to whichever direction Putin is pointing
An informative and detailed post, I will watch out to see if Olenya gets a visit.
Both Engels and Olenya are long range bomber bases, with Engels being "relatively" close to Ukraine, and Olenya being quite a ways to the north on the Kola Peninsula. Engels is generally considered as Russia's main strategic bomber base, being home amongst other things, to squadrons flying Russia's top-of-the-line bomber, the Tu-160, NATO code name Blackjack. Relatively early in the war, when it became clear that Engels was in range of Ukrainian UAVs, a large number of Engels-based bombers was pulled back to other bases, with Olenya being one of the primary dispersal sites. It's pretty much the farthest away that Russia can base it's strategic bombers whilst still being within comfortable striking distance of Ukraine. Striking Olenya in a similar manner to the strike against Engels would mean that Russia has no "secure" bases available anymore in the European part of the country.
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https://bsky.app/profile/antongerashchenko.bsky.social/post/3lkvzvp2ibk26
Russian drone attack on Zaporizhzhia.
Another mass drone attack on Ukraine.
what is so special about the Olenya airbase ?
Lmao the crazy delusional Russian propagandists will help give Ireland to Trump lol
Or Russia.....
it’s quite a ways away from the actual air base, so I’m not sure if aircraft operations as such are impeded
Simple answer to that is : yes. Obituaries were posted today for two Russian pilots killed in the strike. In addition, there's footage of shrapnel/débris raining down on houses 5km from the site, and whole villages have been evacuated due to the damage caused by the blast wave. Aircraft in hangars might not have been directly affected, but I'd say there's a heck of a lot of auxillary systems that'll need to be checked before they can safely schedule flights again.
The information that would be most interesting to learn would be what Ukraine used for this attack (and the attack on the Kraznowotzit pumping station) because they were both a serious escalation of damage caused. I am longing for the day Ukraine manages to achieve a similarly devastating attack on the Olenya airbase. If they can achieve that, then I reckon the end of the conflict will not be far behind … and it'll be Russia begging for a ceasefire.
there were obituaries for Russian bomber pilots from this base, seen it earlier bsky
It's that time again
Yeah, that ammo dump is done. Unfortunately, it’s quite a ways away from the actual air base, so I’m not sure if aircraft operations as such are impeded. Also, there’s a second ammo dump at the base, not sure if that was hit as well.
That base is fcuked
They haven't gone for wholesale slaughter like the Israeli's in Gaza yet. I don't know how that could be argued otherwise
Because they can't as they don't have untrammelled air power.
They are however happy to fling missiles into hospitals, schools and whatever other civilian infrastructure they can manage. Oh, and they are happy to abduct and indoctrinate children in invaded territory. And generally are quite murderous to civilians and POWs alike.
They idea they are holding anything back is fairly farcical at this stage.
If Russia had air-supremacy they could consider trying to make use of their FOABs. Since they don't it's a moot point. Were they to try there's every chance the bombers carrying them would be shot down before they crossed the Ukrainian border.
This sounds a bit more like a fantasy of yours engine.
It's certainly not a take that's based in reality. And you seem to think the Ukrainians have zero interception capabilities despite the fact that they are proving to be serious operators when it comes to such aspects of warfare.
If the Russians could do anything meaningful with their FOABs they would have.
Remember how proud they were of showing the near deserted ruins of Vovchansk whose boss last year. Laughable stuff despite the fact this is all no laughing matter.
Nukes heading west are nukes heading west NATO or no NATO. There's plenty that could head east in a brutal response.
But shur look I know I won't be changing your mind on things so have at it.
I thought he said Ukraine is not a state and only recognises Ukrainians as Russians.
Ah no. Sure didn't he say he wasn't. And that's good enough for <insert spamnik name here>.
Listening to pod
The anger and concern from Canadians is on another level now
It’s not hard to see parallels with invasion of Ukraine now that Trump is using identical hate speech and nonsense that Russians did
Are we getting the proper equipment together - aircraft, radar etc? Still only one naval ship at sea? Have we heard of any push from EU and / or Nato in our direction to get our woeful defence situation in some sort of order?
BTW my view on this neutrality thing is - all good, no problem with it BUT it doesnt give you a pass on still requiring a proper defense system across army, navy, airforce and intelligence. This gov and all past govs have divested themselves of the responsibility to have the defense of the state in top order, neutrality aside, thats no excuse
Mevedev is only a mouthpiece for Putin. And behind Putin are the Silovicki, his buddies from his KGB days in Berlin, and no doubt by now, like the Oligarchs, are losing money hand over fist because of Putins disasterous invasion. After the collapse of communism, and the tumultuous time that followed, the Oligarchs were involved in the wholesale theft of Russian assets to the point where starvation was a distinct possibility. Putin put a stop to that by making an example of Khodorkovsky, and thereafter, it was business as usual, but with the difference that the profits from the thieving had to be shared between the state and Putin. A lot of by now elderly Russians still support him because of this. in the belief that he was not the worst of them. But one thing is sure, the Russian Federation is now facing economic collapse, and to restore it to the same level it was at pre-invasion, will take several years, even after the War in Ukraine ends. So, no matter who replaces Putin (the choice of the Silovicki) even if he's more war like version of Putin, will not have the same military / economic capabilities that Putin had when he began his war. You are talking about several years of preparation, and in the intervening time, Europe is currently rapidly rearming, so Russia, nuclear weapons notwithstanding, will face a far greater and well-prepared enemy than what Putin faced in Ukraine, one that would be capable of destroying him. This is Russias last Invasion.
This is a classic example of whataboutism.
Putin uses this tactic a lot to minimize or validate his actions. You're simply repeating the same technique.
it must be jarring for you now that Russia and US are best buddies eh?
I don't know how it could be denied that Putin is a psychopath but to imagine he's the worst that could lead Russia is a stretch.
https://kyivindependent.com/russias-medvedev-threatens-to-nuke-us-germany-uk-ukraine-if-russia-loses-occupied-territories/
Russia is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.
Israeli's don't taeget civilians like the USA. The AI picks targets and the Israeli's launch weapons at those targets that often hit no militants and murder children. I think they've murdered about 15,000 so far.
The Americans have done similar many many times. Nagasaki and Hiroshima would be obvious starting points. Many of the massacres in Vietnam has been published etc. I'd very much disagree with your synopsis of the outcome of the US and UK illegal invasion of Iraq .
Ukraine is not in NATO so there would be no nuclear retaliation just a radioactive wasteland in Ukraine. Putins Russia has so far not gone nuclear. Imagine if Medvedev replaced him.
What impact would twenty FOABs have on kyiv?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_All_Bombs
This commentator was always negative about Ukrainian defenders and now is more upbeat
some quotes
“AFU is successfully attriting Russian forces at 0-30km through a combination of mining, drones, and traditional fires. This enables a low density of forces to hold the front. Russian units often don’t reach defensive positions and much of the equipment is lost in assaults”
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And that most Russians are killed by drones that are made within Ukraine
Dispatching some RAF jets to take out the Kerch bridge would be a nice proportional response.
Fascinating interview. Clearly a very intelligent, albeit reprehensibly nationalist, man. Plenty of propoganda and views of history that are at odds with reality in his answers but in between it all, he does make a few good points: the EU is going to have to become more federal in response to Putinism and Trumpism. Member states are going to have to give up more of our sovereignty and we clearly have expanded the EU with too much of a "quantity over quality" strategy (see Hungary) and without enough consideration for how to remove bad actors from the union.
funny enough that was my first thought too…
Well, the Ukrainians are causing havoc amongst Russian airports with their drones, and Russia has said that any country supplying Ukraine with weapons etc. will be considered a legitimate target, Heathrow could be their response.
