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Europe - and its actual allies - need to roll up its sleeves.
Trumps America can't be trusted whatsoever.
Immense difficulties ahead, but I'd rather face into them than be licking his hole knowing he's going to sh*t on us anyway.
Was it the Polish PM who said it was time the 500m Europeans started looking after themselves? We may as well start doing that.
How long can Ukraine stay in the fight without US military support?
the point that Trump saying that Ukr has no cards. Ukr had TWO very big cards and Trump gave them away ie never going to join NATO and ‘ you can say goodbye to the captured land’. IMO , that statement is a tell tale sign that Trump had NO INTENTION of acting as a peacemaker. The US at that point if not well before it had made up its mind that it wanted to end the war ASAP and in Putin’s favour.
Europe should out boots on the ground into Ukraine and create a buffer zone. Call Trump and Putins bluff.
I assume that Starlinks is included. So is there any point now in Ukr signing that rear ?earth deal
Ukraine had another - US aid. That is now also gone.
could they not be given to Ukr - on pure commercial grounds- to help in mine blasting and save on gel ignite?
Fintan O'Toole in todays IT, we need to wake up to what America has become, tarrifs from the West & a resurgent Russia from the East
"In 2018, while on his way to a cringeworthy fanboy encounter with Vladimir Putin, Trump was asked by CBS News to name his “biggest foe globally right now”: “Well, I think we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now you wouldn’t think of the European Union but they’re a foe.”
And yet there was shock last week when Trump said that “the European Union was formed to screw the United States, that’s the purpose of it, and they’ve done a good job of it”. Presumably his similar claims in his first term were taken neither seriously nor literally.
Trump really does rank the EU, along with China, as America’s biggest global enemy. He intends to harm it from the outside by imposing tariffs on its exports and by empowering Putin to reassert Russia’s dominance of eastern Europe. And to undermine it from the inside by allying the US to the heirs of the fascist movements it helped to defeat in 1945."
so, only one ‘man’ will be deciding if Ukr is serious about bringing the war to an end or not and we know the ‘ basis ‘ that he will be using to make that decision!!!
Ukraine needs to get those centrifuges spinning.
Off you go they take volunteers over there you know
What deal? There never was a deal
How can someone be so gullible
Aren’t you threadbanned?
So where’s this peace we were promised?
Nobody is thread banned new rules which aren't exactly new either.
So I take it with 'boots' you mean other people, not yourself or your sons or daughters or anyone you know ideally?
Re The US pulling out , I do NOT understand how the whole thing - from a UKr perspective will fall apart. Why? We have a nation That has Ru on the ropes from a standing position ie remember the first few days of the war especially and the vast area that it has driven Ru out of . And RU is gaining Only ‘inches of Ukr ground daily, Ukr has captured a piece of Ru , and Ukr continues to cause serious damage to Ru infrastructure away behind the front lines and deep into Russia. And all of the above with one hand tied behind its back and only a ‘drip feed’ of arms. So, if the ‘collision of the willing countries’ up their game by ,say, 10% the game could be over for Russia. iMO , it is Russia where time is running out for.
We should remember that what Ukr wants now are drones more than tanks, etc, which were coming from. The US
Are you saying European countries don’t have armies and they are all conscripted and forced to serve in the military?
Doesn’t matter now anyway. It’s only a matter of time before EU countries are toe to toe with Russia.
You never know. Someone you know personally might have to go and fight all because Trump and Russian sympathizers like yourself just want to appease Putin and his genocidal army.
Sorry, but wasn’t it Merkel who said that Minsk 2 was only a ploy to arm Ukraine. You can blame trump etc, but it was the EU that set this up.
Why are you here and not booking a one way trip to Russia with your kids?
I don’t understand why those who constantly defend Russian oligarchic fascism and aggression and apparently hate our western way of life and undermine it publicly don’t put their money where their mouths are sort of speak
And yes I would absolutely fight so my kids don’t endup in shithole dystopian Russian Mir where dear leader sends them into woodchiper so he gets his name in history books alongside Hitler
The reality is Russia poses an existential threaten to Ukrainian people. You seem to be overjoyed by the fact Trump is enabling them. The exact same lines you're pushing now could easily have been made in the US during WW2 btw.
Christ, RTÉ Radio 1 just hit every Trump talking point in a shockingly confrontational interview with a Ukrainian MP, on Morning Ireland
Having seen multiple videos of Zelenskys citizens being battered and dragged into vans to be sent to the front lines, I wouldn’t be very trusting that Grahams voice as a Ukr citizen would carrying any weight.
See thats the mistake you're making. Nobody defends Russian oligarchic facism and all the rest of that. Well not me anyway. You're for some crazy reason assuming just because I dont trot the full party line I somehow must be Russia's troll. I'm not. You just seem to have gone way over there where you shut yourself off to any reasonable and balanced views. And from over there everyone looks like an adversary to you. I suppose it's the way the internet has gone. All about 'sides' and no longer listening to what is actually being said by anyone.
Me I'm Just calling out hypocrisy. Like since you brought it up we have plenty of oligarchs ourselves and many shades of fascism too. Easy to spot too if you cared to look.
In war you have to be 100%. This is what happens when people prevaricate endlessly.
Or, more simply, he who hesitates…
Putin must be getting desperate, to be showing his hand so obviously. In his rush to shore up his military weakness he has outed Trump as a Russian asset, provoking a strong European response that I'm sure he would have preferred to avoid. The response in the US could backfire badly too, undermining his long term plans to have the US as an unwitting ally.
I think Ukraine, with European support, need to hang in there - I think things are starting to fall apart in Russia.
We will find out just how much of a hold Putin has over Trump soon, when we see just how far Trump can be pushed to betray Ukraine and US.
I am not the one who is insisting that supporting Ukraine equals sending our kids to fight there
Europe ha 3x the population of Russia and 20x the economy
A small 0.5% gdp transfer per year alongside transferring the hundreds of billions of Russian own money would allow Ukrainians and their own 1 million strong military to stomp the Russian Nazis back into the barbaric 💩-holes they crawled out
And yes you are not only parroting Russian propaganda but using the exact same talking points as they put out
We either live in a Europe where there are rules and stability and peace or we live in a Europe where your sons die for an oligarch so the largest country in world gets larger and your daughters endup prostituted away, like happens to Russians and those Ukrainians in occupied territories
You obviously don’t have kids, because you would not make such a flippant remarks
Merkel completely misjudged Putin, but that has no bearing on what I said.
By the same logic - off you go to Russia or Belarus then. You seem happy to urge Ukraine to accept a similar fate so I assume you must be ready to volunteer for that yourself.
Can (we) the EU open up the frozen assets now, please?
No but it means sending someone's kids there does it not?
Look no point in this 🤷♂️
Ukraine firmly fùcked under the bus by the good ole USA.....
It actually makes sense when you see what the U.S (including Biden) has done to the Palestinians...alligning themselves with an evil rogue state, arming them to the teeth so they can kill women and children....
Its very much US policy to side with the bad guys....Trump is being consistent....
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