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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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    #9782
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123228492#Comment_123228492

    I thought that after the white house Trump organised ambush and Trumps subsequent comments about Zelensky, that he has washed his hands completely of both Zeleksky and Ukraine…. but it seems that his love of Ukrainian wealth over rides all other consideration, personal or otherwise. Slimy barsteward. The world will be a better place for his passing…



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    #9783
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229154#Comment_123229154

    I remember that story.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-send-weapons-to-ukraine-5694833-Feb2022/

    Per article, I think we only had 10s of Javelins though.

    We had/have more (100s, even low 1000s?) of lighter anti tank weapons (AT4) that would not harm a modern Russian tank, but would be able to blow up some lighter vehicles.

    I had a thought there, if we had a stockpile of several 1000 Javelin missiles in Feb. 2022 others in Europe might have come looking to get them off us for Ukraine back then (despite neutrality etc. etc.)



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    #9784
    political analyst
    Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229064#Comment_123229064

    Point taken. But the rest of my post still stands.



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    #9785
    political analyst
    Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229038#Comment_123229038

    So there was no chance to leave Mariupol before February 28th?



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    #9786
    poop emoji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    $1.5 trillion just vanished from S&P in few hours

    And it’s only Monday



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    #9787
    political analyst
    Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eu86HHOfBk

    7:40 - The UK's and France's combined nuke stockpile is dwarfed by Russia's but, as Carl Dinnen said, we're not yet in the position where Russia could use those nukes without the US retaliating.

    If there was one Russian nuclear attack on any NATO member state in Europe, it would cause a global outcry (including in the US) and a massive economic crisis in addition to the deaths of millions of people and the inflation that took place in the US economy under the Biden administration would be a storm in a teacup by comparison.



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    #9788
    selectamatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229369#Comment_123229369

    They have more than enough to level Moscow and St. Petersburg and a few other cities which would effectively be the destruction of the Russian state therefore they have the MAD umbrella.



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    #9789
    bilbot79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    If Russia keeps advancing, Twump gets no rare earths.



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    #9790
    .Donegal.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Bad news. May as well be Putin in the oval office

    Donald Trump has paused US military aid to Ukraine just days after his row with President Zelenskyy, according to US media reports.

    The pause will last until the president believes Ukraine's leaders have shown a good faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News.



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    #9791
    political analyst
    Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229382#Comment_123229382

    But would the UK and France be able to launch their missiles before they were hit by the Russian missiles and would enough of their missiles get past the Russian anti-missile defence system to destroy the Russian state.

    The scenario I have in mind is one of a limited nuclear war, i.e. retaliation for the destructions of one NATO city with the destruction of a Russian city of equivalent value but probably not against Moscow because NATO would still need to be able to negotiate with the Russian government in the hope of preventing all-out nuclear war.



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    #9792
    bilbot79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Someone should give Ukraine a nuclear weapon



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    #9793
    machiavellianme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229393#Comment_123229393

    Hit by Russian missiles? Have you learned nothing in the last 3 years? The Ukraine strike deep in Russia at will and there's nothing that can stop refinery hits from homemade drones. Russia have little to nothing in air defences. I'm pretty sure that advanced European weapons will have no problem with hitting their intended targets.

    If ever such a stupid series of events unfolded, I'm sure the Russians would brag about intercepting them with their strategically placed cities though.

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    #9794
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,423 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229182#Comment_123229182

    ...

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1896712957385384440

    WSJ

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/u-s-hitting-brakes-on-flow-of-arms-to-ukraine-980a71d1?mod=e2tw&s=09



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    #9795
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,002 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229422#Comment_123229422

    Disgusting.



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    #9796
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123228584#Comment_123228584

    Did you hear Zelensky's response in interview to comments from that slimeball Lindsey Graham about Zelensky and election.

    He said …

    "I can give him the citizenship of Ukraine,"

    "He will become a citizen of our country, and then his voice will gain weight. And I will hear him as a citizen of Ukraine on the topic of who must be the president."

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    #9797
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,914 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The recent the Rest is Politics episode brought up the likelihood that Turkey will be willing to play a big role in assisting and supplying Ukraine. They've been happily smashing Russian proxies in Libya for years, and have excellent drones and an experienced military.

    There was also a wild speculation that China ought to offer Ukraine a deal for say 25% of their resources, in exchange for support. Be a perfect moment to try and undercut the US.



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    #9798
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229096#Comment_123229096

    Putin has claimed the worst thing in the 20th century was end of Soviet Union.

    He wants it back, he already has many of the ex Soviet states in his pocket, Belarus being a prime example.

    He did have Ukraine when he had puppets like Yanukovych, but then along came people like Poroshenko.

    He totally under estimated Zelensky.

    He probably figured he would leg it, Kyiv would fall and he would put a puppet back in.

    And if he had he would have taken Moldova and probably the Baltic states by now.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    #9799
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭Infini


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229401#Comment_123229401

    This is what's going to happen at some point if this keeps up. "Peace Through Superior Firepower" isn't a euphamism, it's literally the only thing vainglorious little shítstains like Putin fear because it inflicts consequences he cannot ignore, escape or run from.

    As for "President Krasnov" I think the only way to make that Orange Bollocks back down is for Europe to retaliate on him and expecially his closest friends big time, really should look at sanctioning or severely tariffing his business interests. This orange bastard is an enemy of Europe.



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    #9800
    doyle55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭doyle55


    It is a matter of (relatively short) time until they withdraw from NATO.

    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1896725055759065167


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    #9801
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,617 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229386#Comment_123229386

    It's how he gets things done. Zelensky is happy with the mineral deal, it's all agreed on by both parties, sign it, a first step towards peace. Zelensky can't be cutting off his nose to spite his face at this point in the game.

    Of course we'd have to work on security deals afterwards, but they were not tied to this deal, it's for another day.



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    #9802
    OrangeBadger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭OrangeBadger


    Trump seems to think he's gonna live till he's 120 and be the president until then, wave this shiny mineral deal in his face and he will strut around chest out even though it would be 5+ years before any mining begins, how about all the demining that will have to happen, yeah have some American contractors lose limbs to some of Putins toys.

    It's the same with apples 500billion plan....yet to start sometime in the future, or bring chip making back from Taiwan oh yeah that will be up and running in a few months. For me it's a countdown till the orange knob is in the ground



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    #9803
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,423 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Bloomberg reports that the pause applies to all US military equipment not currently in Ukraine and that this includes weapons in transit on aircraft and ships or waiting in transit areas in Poland.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/mar/03/us-politics-live-news-donald-trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-announced-commerce-secretary

    Very serious. I don't see what moves Ukraine has now. They need to take Trump's deal.



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    #9804
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229450#Comment_123229450

    Peace my hole.

    What does Zelensky and Ukraine get, a kick in the nuts?

    He can't trust Trump and a ceasefire without a guarantee of some security from likes of US or Europe is about as much use as an umbrella in a hurricane.

    Trump is doing whatever Putin wants.

    He disregarded his own security advisors years ago and sided with Putin.

    He is basically p**ing all over his own military and security apparatus by getting into bed with Putin.

    I actually think Putin really needs the war to end, or more correctly the current stage of it so that he can rearm, to go again in a few years.

    Yes his military are very slowly making gains, the North Koreans haven't supposedly really worked out, and it is a bit of a meat grinder.

    The losses are huge and he can only cover these up for so long, when the guys are coming from small towns in Siberia or central Asia. If they come from the major cities in European Russia it would be harder to hide.

    Better still than just ceasefire of sorts, his orange gimp forces Zelensky out, forces election in Ukraine that Putin can try and rig to get a friendly guy into power.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    #9805
    Oscar_Madison
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229459#Comment_123229459

    And America will oversee the elections just to make sure a Putin friendly ponce gets elected



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    #9806
    aidanodr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229455#Comment_123229455

    And this from Julia is it in a nutshell

    https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1896730330964619397


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    #9807
    bilbot79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Europe needs to mobilize its economy.



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    #9808
    ronjo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭ronjo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123228961#Comment_123228961

    If you really think the whole war is about minerals then you have paid zero attention to Putin for the last 10 years plus



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    #9809
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Absolutely disgusting betrayal.


    He really is a dark stain in humanity who cant die soon enough.



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    #9810
    eoinbn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229527#Comment_123229527

    Good luck with that. Europe is a clown show. We are still trying to use the EU as an aid mechanism only to have everything slowed or stopped by Putin's agent within the EU.

    It's not really surprising that the US is cutting all ties with us. We are a laughing stock.



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    #9811
    rolling boh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    It's looks inevitable Ukraine will have to accept a deal mainly in favour of Putin if not all in his favour .It was always possible that Trump would side with Putin but now that it has actually happened it really is sickening. Can't really see Europe making up the difference that Ukraine needs .



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