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Frankly, no. There is no guarentee at all that doing any or all of the above would provide anything that Ukraine needs for their defense. That's almost what that damned minerals deal was looking like. Essentially: "Sign this and we'll be help you…maybe….maybe not…we'll see"
Trump is not an honest actor. He's as bad as Putin, and the only saving grace for his lot at the moment is that some non-MAGA characters might provide a smidge moral direction to the current US position. Someone might eventually get it through Donnie's head that betting on the Russians is a guarenteed loss for Americans (and Trump personally) no matter what happens now. Russia is a basketcase of a nation now, and there's really no coming back for them.
But signing the mineral deal or doing any of the craven stupid things that MAGA world want out of Zelenski will get Ukraine nothing. There needs to be real security guanentees, and a way to ensure that Donnie's mood won't have an impact on operations. Then it might be worth Zelenski's (and Europe's) time.
would this be worth it for Ukraine?
It is if he genuinely believes what he is saying here
and has repeatedly said over the course of the war
From Mark Rutte - NATO
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/01/live-european-leaders-rally-behind-zelenskyy-after-trump-vance-clash-updates?page=with%3Ablock-67c326518f08707b9b4052a9#block-67c326518f08707b9b4052a9
If last evening was indeed an ambush and deliberate from Trump and Co, which it more and more seems to have been .. how does one restore from there?
It would seem Zelenskyy would have to eat huge chunks of humble pie while simultaneously licking Trumps ass to massage his ego to the nth degree, bow to his KING and agree to all his lies - "Its good to be the king"
And also apologise for "rashly" behaving like he did around the hunter biden time. Basically - sell out.
SO would this be worth it for Ukraine?
I feel it's quite important that if (or more likely when) Europe ends up having to support Ukraine alone against the Russians, that any resulting peace should be to the benefit of Europe at large and that Trump's America be at the back of the queue to join in on the benefits of that peace.
All of this started with EuroMaidan and a desire for Ukraine to gain access to EU trade. This should end with Ukraine firmly in the EU and getting all the practical benefits of membership. The added bonus for Europe is that not only would a Russian defeat in the conflict strenghten security in this continent, but Ukraine itself will be a repair & development project that will last decades. Countless contracts and trade possibilies for the whole of the EU to join in on, which not only would create more EU jobs, but would likely be welcomed in by Kiev, who following the war will want any support they can get in. All while deepening Kiev's relationship with the rest of Europe.
The US as they are now, should hope to maybe one day buy their way into this trade possibility, but while they behave as a Russian vassal they should discounted as one.
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No Zelensky does not, there is no point as all US aid has been stopped, or shortly will be. Europe and other supporting countries have to decide are they on the Orcs side or Ukraines and are they prepared to do what it takes, in real terms, not that BS that came out of Biden's two faced gob.
The US has been taken over by Putin and the FSB, no point in Zelensky grovelling or pulling punches. The Irony is that the Orcs haven't succeeded in conquering Ukraine, but they took the US instead without firing a shot, all it took was agents Krasnov and M-Rat, some really stupid people and some bribes.
Listening back to that pile on from Trump Vance .. listened a few times today. No fault at all on Zelenskyy, he was ambushed, this was all planned.
However - after the fact - which can be easier to make conclusions from - I think Zelenskyy should have literally said NOTHING, kept his mouth shut and let them ramble on and shout and scream. If an answer had to happen, keep it short, even one syllible. He sort of took the bate which Trump and Co were hoping he would.
Ukraine needs to do something to show they're still in the fight. I dont mean the courageous holding the line or scorched earth retreats (which do make sense) but they need something just to sway US Republicans that they can win this war.
So Zelenskyy is in the UK with Starmer (was meant to be tomorrow) and the rest of Europe coming tomorrow
Now more than ever we need to be fully behind Zelenskyy and tomorrow should be the start of rebuilding Europe's defense.
No more relying on America and infact we should start isolating Trump
Trumps puts 25% tariffs in Europe, Europe does 30%
No more sitting in the middle for Starmer, pick a side.
I get that he'll try to "come again" in a few years, but with what, and with who?
Look to the nations that vote with Russia in UN resolutions and the like, or the ones who stay silent. Especially the economically very poor nations. If Putin flatters & bribes them, and offers them a cut of the proceeds, they may also feel it's in their interests to provide practical military support in any future Special Military Operations.
On Telegraphs Ukraine the Latest podcast they made an interesting point
“Are you sure you will get software updates for your F35s” (addressed to European countries)
I don’t think it sunk in yet, be interesting what happens to stocks on Monday but Trump just dealt a massive blow to US defence industries who would need external orders especially as US military itself is facing cuts with likes of Musk loudly criticising programs like F35
In reality though just as always zelensky needs to continue the humble routine and take the bullying from these wimps. Whatever saves lives. He needs to at least drag this out as long as possible in the hope of some event that for es Trump to commit to Ukraine. Burning bridges won't help him no matter how justified. We've all been there, exiting a job, where we could destroy people and be justified but there's no tangible pay off except for our own pride. Zelensky has shown that he is willing to sacrifice personal pride for the sake of his people, that he what makes him an actual leader and not some gangster born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
sociopaths/narcissists lack the self awareness and empathy to think that.
If Trump was President during World War 2, we'd all be speaking German
It was always very tacky, spraying Z on their Soviet era stock like a gang tag.
The old axiom is war happens when the risk of not going to war is greater than the risk of war itself. Putin must have felt so paranoid about losing control over Russia that he needed a special operation to stay on top.
Wait til he sees Ukraines “wall of death” drones or something…….
The war and the flight of youngest and ablest Russians into exile is only driving down the birth rate.
Putin needs a ceasefire.
Doesn't seem to me to be acting like a leader who does, not offering even the most cosmetic of concessions to facilitate a Trump-led 'peace deal'. Looks to me to be keen to keep pushing forward on the battlefield…
Not everyone voted for Trump. Tesla protests are happening across the US too.
Bluesky has really taken off as alternative to the Trump infested X. Even some Trump voters are being fired from their governments jobs by DOGE.
If things were terse domestically in the USA during his first term it's going to get a lot worse when the next George Floyd happens and Trump will say they brought it on themselves.
We're watching the USA in meltdown.
yet what we're increasingly seeing is alcoholics guys in their 50s and 60s being sent to the front with donkeys.
Exactly. It suits Putin to have a pause.
It is now chess not checkers.
He will come again, let that be 1 year 3 years or 5.
Ukraine have utterly humiliated him and turned his country into a new North Korea.
Of course Trump is trying his best to reverse that.
But make no mistake Putin will not respect any peace deal or cease fire.
Anyone who thinks otherwise has not being paying attention.
The reason Trump and his ghouls are calling Zelenskyy a dictator is they want elections in Ukraine because they know full well the Russians will interfere with it.
Again, just in case hasn't been paying attention for the last decade. The Kremlin have a Puppet in the Whitehouse.
It was only imaginable in movies up until now.
But why aren't there thousands, of the good Americans, condemning Trump & offering support for Ukraine ? We need a new European force made up of a few countries to help Ukraine & ideally put troops inside the Country. Show Putin that there is no chance of winning.
I keep these threats of advancing Russia, yet what we're increasingly seeing is alcoholics guys in their 50s and 60s being sent to the front with donkeys. Just as their soviet era stock has been eroded so too has its manpower.
The number priority of Ukraine is to lose as few as possible, strategic withdrawals rather than troops losses, but ultimately the Russian losses have continued on upward trajectory.
Trump was as unhinged towards Zelensky as much as Putin needs a ceasefire. But even if Putin got his pause, where are his new troops going to come from as the nearly million who fled Russia after the special operation began were mostly young males of military service age.
Thats not what the post you're quoting says at all..?
So on the one the one hand, if Ukraine ditch the US, Russia (and its lada army) is there for the taking.
On the other, Europe has to back Ukraine or Russia will attempt to push into Europe.
Schroedingers Russia.
Nuclear weapons are an absolute must, now that the Orcs have control of the US.
I read an article last year on Ukraine arming themselves either with Nukes or some sort of midterm dirt bomb to try and guarantee their safety if the world turned their back on them again.
The last 2 lines of the article stuck with me and are even more relevant given the events of the last 24 hours.
There is a real danger here that the world would be foolish to ignore. If Ukraine one day faces the choice between national survival and its eradication by advancing Russian forces, what might it choose?
You don’t have to be a geopolitical expert to understand that Ukraine may refuse to go quietly into that good night of vanishing nations.
History is now gazing at Macron and Starmer.
It's their time.
The filth stopped assistance to repair Ukraine's power sector yesterday, even before the meeting, it's all a pre-planned charade - it was always about doing Putin's bidding of cutting aid, but to do that you have to set up Ukraine and Zelensky and try and make them look bad as justification first.
The whole mineral deal being randomly thrown into the middle of a so called peace deal - something weird and so stupidly outrageous it had to be rejected - was part of that. Yesterday was the planned coup de gras.
I don't know why people are treating the allegations that Krasnov is actually an Orc agent as a sort of joke instead of a deadly serious matter.
I think everyone knows that Trump is a cult, and not representative of the whole US. There's plenty of ex US service personal now fighting alongside Ukranians on the front. The only notable exception being Steven Seagal who's a real Putin fanatic.
Even the guy arrested for plotting to kill Trump on the golf course had been a Trump supporter the first term. The young man who nearly succeeded a card carrying republican.
King Charles should un-invite Trump after that display. Europe's leaders think the way to handle Trump is to lavish him with gifts and praise, I think they should ignore him now, cut him off.
The only thing war decides is who's left.
Russia is now reduced to using donkeys at the front while Ukraine continues to evolve and expand its domestically produced drone capabilities to the point where drones will become a moving wall of death.
My only pity is for the donkeys.
