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So basically Trump's only success is in alienating the USAs oldest allies.
I can't see Ukraine backing down in any regard as it would be an insult to all those who've already died in Putin's war.
Peskov confirms what everyone already knows, the Russians aren't interested in stopping the war. "What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine".
https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0227/1499212-us-russia-talks/
The Kremlin has ruled out any negotiation over the status of five Ukrainian regions it claims to have annexed despite not fully controlling four of them.
"The territories which have become subjects of the Russian federation, which are inscribed in our country's constitution, are an inseparable part of our country. This is undeniable and non-negotiable," Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
"Nonsense"
The last main supply road into from Sumy - Sudzha the R200 was taken under total drone and artillery control a couple of days ago as 6 settlements were captured in the region lately.
Difficult decisions coming in the coming days and weeks as to when they pull out of the region given no food, ammo and rotation of troops can get in or out.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_France
French don’t do colonies, France is France
This makes no sense. Canada would still be a member and the organisation can still exist without the US. It might not even be weaker than it currently is given the degenerate leadership the USA currently has.
I very much get the impression that Trump is losing interest in a deal as in the media his exchange with Macron very much paints him as being weak.
Probably explains his accusation borrowed from the Russian playbook about the EU being formed just to shaft the USA.
No one in his circle is explaining to him that imposing barriers to trade with the world is self imposed sanctions.
If the US withdraws from NATO then NATO is automatically 100% no more, technically ‘ . Why? Because of the word ‘ Atlantic” . That word is included because of where tThe US is - there to put a stamp on what geographical area is included. NOW A BIG OPPORTUNITY
Macron, Fredrick M., Starmer, for example, should now call a meeting of the remaining members to
(1)formally announce the end of the NATO relationship - that job now done.
(2) Shortly after that one of the above should invite LIKE MINDED COUNTRIES to form a new partnership. It can use the exact same MEMORANDUM of UNDERSTANDING/ ARTICLES of ASSOCIATION equivalent as the NATO one apart from making the obvious adjustments
The agreement should indicate the conditions re new members wanting wanting to join. ONE CRITICAL SECTION the ruses should have is the ability to CANCEL MEMBERSHIP of any member not ‘pulling’ it’s weight/ becoming a ‘rogue ‘state
People seem to be talking a lot about peace talks and ceasefire deals, when it seems to me at the moment, the only deal being discussed is a minerals one.
In fact Trump saying Europe would be the ones who need to provide security and saying a peace deal may not be possible highlights this.
Trump must have been told about King Leopold II and thought "that seems a good idea, maybe I can do something like that"
outside of the technical aspects of the deal , the financial element, who gets what, I thought , from a security point of view, the most PROFOUND aspect of it /comments by Trump on it was when he said “ While the US civil staff from senior management down working on the mines IN THE EAST , Russia will not touch them. It will do so AT IT’s pearl”. Or words to that effect. He was very clear in his statement.
So, if we take that statement as clearly understood , does that mean that Ukraine has now got juristiction over all of the Dhonbas and Luhansk while the US is mining there and when the mines are ‘exhausted’ /the US has got it’s money back and the US goes home - WHAT THEN????????????? As they say “ POSSESSION IS NINE POINTSOF THE LAW”
and this is where the security guarantee comes in, if it’s sufficiently robust the game of having another go should be not worth the candle for the Russians, if they’re ’rational actors’…
The only time a ceasefire has been a thing is because Trump wants a Ukrainian surrender.
No one else is calling for a ukranian surrender except Trump.
So the ejection of an invasion force will continue because Ukraine was not consulted.
I think Europe needs to win some time in order to boost capabilities so diplomacy is needed for the moment then the gloves can come off.
And what exactly would they do with it. They can't deploy a nuclear weapon as Russia would reply with 50. And even if they survived they'd be an international pariah. Nukes are only useful to countries where nutjobs are running the asylum, like Russia, North Korea... and the USA
I wish people would stop posting X links and just disengage from that twat. They can't be calling out people in Teslas whilst spending time flicking through X and posting links. Hypocritical nonsense.
I do wish people would stop using the word 'peace' when what they're taking about is a 'ceasefire'.
I think Ukraine would like a ceasefire as well as Russia, peace is peace, I don't think Russia will come back from this on an international and military scale for years, Putin will be gone soon enough, I don't think the Russian people or even the military would tolerate another Putin, wishful thinking I know, but maybe .......
Zelensky has choice, given the usual diarrhoea exiting the Orc gobs, the 'peace deal is clearly going to be anything but' They don't want peace, they want a ceasefire to lick their wounds, try and fix their economy and get themselves in shape to have another go at it.
The ship is far from having sailed. €700 B is a lot of money.
It indicates the people who voted Republican are not all happy with the way things have turned out. Some of that might well be down to Trump doing a 180º on the US relationship with the Orcs, so if the elected republicans start thinking they might become unelected at the next opportunity, they might start to reconsider their support for Trump and it might affect how they vote on things.
What's that got to do with Russia-Ukraine though?
Well he's kind of got his answer
Bit of wiggle room in that 'beyond very much' but, well, not very much…
Thing is there is a strong incentive for Putin to make some minimal compromises as it could give Trump justification for pulling the plug on Zelensky…
Looks like he has no choice, Bit late for some major European powers to step up ,that ship has sailed, Ukraine government prob in talks for months, we'll see on Friday.
Zelensky shouldn't sign this deal, if he can't get answers from Trump on security, just walk away, Europe needs to step up and help
I don't know but you may not be wrong
Just lookat what Bloomberg's Javier Blas is posting on twitter, it is quite funny as he is a but if an expert
I'm rather shocked that Ukraine hasn't produced its own nuclear weapon at this stage. They likely have the refining capacity to do so
I am not convinced there can be a peace deal at all.
Putin and his government haven't really budged in their demands since attempts at negotiations started. They want Ukraine to acknowledge the loss of Crimea and the four oblasts that they claim. I haven't seen anything to suggest that they might be willing to even compromise moderately on that position. Ukraine will obviously never agree to these demands, so I don't see any other choice than fighting to continue.
I think Putin views this as a war he can still win and his plan to win it is through attrition. Both sides are suffering terrible losses and eventually one side will buckle and the other will win. The Russians have the population advantage and capacity for tremendous personal suffering, I think Putin's counting on that.
Anything to do with M-Rat is shit.
Why, is it dodgy?
Because the map is just replicating what Deepstate is saying and they stopped updating Toretsk map in January.
This is from 7/2/24 when 95% was taken and it is still the same today.
A more reliable one from today shows an attack but to suggest it is half the town is 2 days is total nonsense.