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Unfortunately Kallas is part of a talk shop that has no power. Trump and Putin will do a 'deal'(i.e Putin will get everything he wants and the Orange clown will get a backhander of some sorts). Ukraine, and Europe, will have it rammed down our throats.
I don't think most Americans actually care about Ukraine. Once Trump avoids the terrible optics like impacted Biden, after the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, any ceasefire won't attract much attention imo. I looked today at both US and European media coverage of his phone call with Putin. Europe naturally obsessed with the story but not so the US media. The 'ordinary' American doesn't seem to care!
Every prisoner exchange is always some innocent person exchanged for some Russian criminal or hitman
Tells us everything
That American teacher prisoner got exchanged for a Russian hacker
probably cause the guy helped Putin launder hundreds of millions
A lot of the stronger sanctions are in Europe who need to be at table to even begin to do so
Sanctions also suit Trumps America first drill baby drill agenda as takes large amounts of oil and gas out of markets
The real worry for me is that the deal will undoubtedly contain some form of sanctions lifting and Russian economic deterioration will be averted.
I think if possible Zelensky should stretch out these negotiations for as long as it takes to destroy Russias oil industry
A frozen conflict is a loss for Ukraine, they lose the land, they lose the impetous and allow Russia to regroup and go ahead and regroup for the next run at them. Even the land in Kursk will be under constant attack even during a ceasefire. Trump is the worst negoicator in history, he hasn't a clue, he just blurts everything in his fat head right out like a scene from the exorcist.
Poland should be feeling pretty uneasy now as they may just have bought billions of dollars in paperweights as Trump will get the final say in whether they get ammunition, software and parts is completely up to him.
Is there a Musky smell off the whole thing? The US got a prisoner release. Did Putin jump the queue based off that I wonder?
I don't see how Trump sells a capitulation to Russia to wider America but maybe the MAGAs buy it if they are crazen enough to just accept anything he says? Arguing money is being saved might work in blinding many to the bare fact of what looks like conceding ground before even negotiations have taken place.
As for appeasing aggressors like Putin. History does indeed show how that pans out in the long run but Trump's grasp on history only goes back 5 minutes to the last person that sucked up to him or was mean to him.
He'll likely flip again. Also, you can't sell a peace deal that one side does not accept. So he pulls aid. Ukraine will fight with whatever they have like they did at the very start of the invasion even if it appears futile. And suppose Ukraine punch themselves out, Russia will smell blood and deal or no deal will be back with little green men as sure as POTUS is orange.
Someone above mentioned the possibility of a frozen conflict. This is much more likely than a brokered peace. Putin doesn't want them mobiks coming home.
This seems a sensible and commonsense approach from Kallas. What Trump and other US officials said yesterday was moronic.
Trump is now just as senile as Biden was, he makes it up as he goes along then forgets what he has actually said or done earlier. I don't suppose the media will call him out for it the way that Biden was criticised.
I wonder if he actually is being regularly medically assessed for his ability & competence for office by qualified US government medical professionals?
Is that the Frog on Liveline right now? Edit* No. my mistake.
why should UKr thrust any agreement that Trump hammers out with Putin when the US was the guarantor of a CAST IRON agreement re UKr sovereignty when UKr gave to Ru the ‘ keys’ of all of UKr nuclear arms and the US did not defend UKr when attacked it starting Feb 2022 - or for that matter going back to 2014. and ESPECIALLY now that TRUMP is in charge. I would no trust Trump to even push an empty pram not to say a pram with a child in it
We are not powerless
We think we are powerless
There’s a difference
All of Europe and Ukraine are being ignored and brushed aside as the US and Russia do a deal on Ukraine over our heads.
European leaders across the board today expressing their dismay and anger but deep down they know we aren't at the table and won't be. Decisions are made for us.
I'd hope people think about that the next time some lefty Irish 'peacenik' NATO military hater pontificates and moralises in the media.
We are powerless.
The only real point I'm making is that Trump turns on a dime. Now yeah the hulabaloo yesterday with Hegeseth and Trump basically handing away negotiating positions before negotiation begins isn't great but who knows what Trump will do tomorrow.
The only real thing Trump is concerned with is seeming strong. He wants to show wins where he can. We saw him back down from the full scale Canadian tariffs in the space of a day and sell the whole thing as a victory despite the initial trade agreement being the there all along anyway.
If Trump wants to say that he's getting 500 quadrillions of rare earth minerals to seem strong and the weapons keep flowing anyway then who really cares?
I say Zelensky is biting his tongue trying not to laugh at just how stupid Trump is
genius move offering a highly transactional Trump something zelensky doesn’t have and if Trump wants to get he would need to get it somehow from the Russians who are occupying the minerals
The majority of Ukraine's mineral resources are in Orc held areas, which includes 50% of the rare earths, so I'd take anything Trump says on this with a pinch of salt. He's going to get Putrid to hand back those areas so he can get his $500B worth of extortion how?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-zelensky-rare-earth-metals-b2693202.html
I imagine Zelensky has been biting his tongue hard, because the US hasn't assisted Ukraine by anything remotely close to $500B. Obviously now isn't quite the right time to be correcting the madman, but it must be hard on his blood pressure.
The United States has committed more than $66.5 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden Administration, including approximately $65.9 billion since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24, 2022.
https://media.defense.gov/2025/Jan/09/2003626080/-1/-1/1/UKRAINE-FACT-SHEET-JAN-9-2025.PDF
I think it bears repeating that the EU has provided more than half of the assistance Ukraine has received. The US is the single biggest contributor, but on the flip side, US arms sales to Europe have rocketed with the US getting 63% of the EU's defence expenditure, according to Mario Draghi.
That’s a statement of the obvious as theoretically Ukraine and Europe can keep this war going until the last Russian and North Korean male is turned into dust
But Russians are convinced they are at war with USA and can’t admit that Ukrainians kicked their ass, so no wonder they are happy to think it’s Trump who holds all the cards
And tbh let em think that, if it means they go back home to terrorising each other
All along in this war it was obvious that Putin can stop at anytime and go home and declare victory over imagined wrongs and his serfs would swallow any 💩 and their slurry hoses would propagate these myths
Notice how whenever I asked they avoided answering the basic question of “what in Russian eyes constitutes as victory”
They can’t answer that as the script was not handed down yet
He's already done it
European countries right now should ship to Ukraine all their ammo and artillery ammunition and storm shadow missiles etc. If there is going to be a deal made that doesn't benefit Ukraine then Ukraine should make as much damage within that short period of time to hold the Russians back and inflict more damage before the agreement is made. There might be only a few weeks before there is an agreement made so get as much to Ukraine now and let them unleash it on the Russians as fast as they can before this happens as it might mean a few more villages etc. that remain in Ukraines position and not Russia.
So last week, Trump threatened with annexation of Panama canal, Greenland, making Canada 51st state. Nothing happened. Now after phone calls with Putin and Zelensky everybody loses their sh!t, like Trump sold Ukraine. Nothing is signed yet, just a few days ago there were talks about lend lease. Relax people, you know Trump is full of poop, he might do a full 180deg turn tomorrow. But hes not wrong though, europe has to do more.
I see Kaja Kallas is saying that any handshake deal between Trump and Putin and done behind the backs of Europe, NATO and Ukraine simply won't work : everyone has to be on board.
Quite the opposite especially since millions are already here
A prosperous and peaceful Ukraine would mean Ukrainians moving back, we seen it with the Poland
If you are worried about your rent prices being high then go annoy your representative to kick out all them Russians in EU and migrants Russians drive and traffic into EU
For some reason despite us being told BRICS are all the hot **** these days millions from those wonderful countries come here
The US and multiple US presidents, Democrat and Republican, have spent decades pushing soft power, wielding the largest stick, etc. NATO is built on it, everything is built on it.
That has radically changed in the short term, yes Europe needs to come to terms with it, yes we need to focus more on security (I'm a big backer of it) but Trump is highly volatile, he's only just back to power, and the polls were close right up to the election. If Harris had e.g. won we'd be in a completely different situation now.
It's a difficult tune for the world to dance to.
Trump has gone to Putin, said god knows what, and is blackmailing Ukraine for rare earth minerals. Maybe he'll take over Greenland, Panama and Gaza, maybe not. No one knows.
Naturally Europe is concerned, naturally Europe can't flipflop whichever direction Trump does, naturally we can't play all his games and preempt all his whims.
We aren't a super-state with a singular autocrat figure in charge, we are a multitude of countries with different systems. Change takes time. Countries have been spending dramatically more on military spending but it doesn't all happen overnight.
And all of this could be a game by Putin. Which Trump doesn't take into account and doesn't care about - but we have to.
We all want Putin's invasion to end, but not at the cost of giving him everything and opening the gates for another invasion in a few years time. All the while trying to please a volatile US president who couldn't point to Ukraine on a map and is currently a bull in a China shop.
Speaking of China, yeah no, with their Taiwan conflict of interest, they'd be worse than Trump.
I didn't say anything about military deterrents. I said that the comments imply that Ukraine in the EU would result in lots of Ukrainians moving west.
nor have they any real interest in the health of Europe's economy beyond what they themselves can get out of it
Funny, I was thinking the same about our leaders. Decades of blistering incompetence leaving us unable to even keep the lights on in the country any more and they dare to lecture us?
European defence ministers criticise that stupid orange cnut Trump
Are you serious?? Stand down his military once mssion accomplished??? Do you seriously think that if Putin succeeds in Ukraine ( he wont) thats it, end of story??? Just as soon as he can Putin will begin a program of rebuilding his military to be even stronger and more powerfull than it was before the invasion, using the experience hes gained from his war in Ukraine.
If I recall correctly you predicted Europe would freeze and the world would starve in 2022 and have made all sorts of bonkers hysterical claims typically garnered from some very dodgy social media accounts, so that's a bit rich.
The Rub was 113 in January. It's since come down due to Trump getting in and the potential for a settlement - it could easily flip the other way if that goes off the table. That's just the volatile exchange rate, Russia has nearly 10% inflation (possibly higher) while the rest of us are closing in on 2%. Last check Bank of Russia rate was 21%.
If any modern economy was hitting those figures there'd be something very very wrong going on.
Yes, difference between them and Ukraine is that they are protected by NATO, while Ukraine isn't, unfortunately. And so far, Putin has not made the mistake of attacking NATO outright.
That would be appropriate. Before the First world War, the phrase 'The Russian Steam-roller' was popularised, demonstrating other states exaggerated beliefs in Ruzzia's martial prowess and supposedly limitless resources and manpower.
Dont worry million of Russians across Europe will now happily go back to Russia
Hopefully our friends of Russia are also shipped back
he regularly does this drive by abuse of facts/statistics both here and parallel thread, when it’s pointed out time after time he moves onto next item on the firehose of shite
Just keep calling out Russian amigos on their bullcrap which has consistency of running scutter
