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Two Three years into the three days war Russians started, that should tell you something about Russian levels of bollox and propaganda no?
In those two years you haven’t spotted a pattern?
luckily for me I managed to avoid these threads for the first 2.5 years of the 3 day war…..
Ukraine might not be smelling of roses, but Russia…, Russia smells like a sewer that’s been blocked by 25 years of ****. And the guy who’s job it is to clean it won’t clean it because he doesn’t get paid enough and he’s at the bottom of a bottle of vodka every other hour…
Tucker Carlson was already spinning conspiracies before the plane crash that Biden was plotting assassination attempt on Putin, Fico, Orban and Trump
what were Russian Ice Skaters doing in the US of that is true? I thought that this kind of thing was part of the ‘sanctions’ equivalent . The US took exception to Russians being involved in the Olympics - so , what’s the difference?. I will hold my breath on this one in case someone is trolling. Hard to know what to believe these days. Now have to contend with the reported Obama family issue
former world champions, and been living in U.S. since 1998, as coaches in the U.S. team, their son represented U.S.A.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/renowned-russian-figure-skating-couple-were-board-us-plane-that-crashed-tass-2025-01-30/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Jan%2030%20(Reuters),night%2C%20Russian%20state%20media%20reported.
Have you ever bothered engaging with other posters? At this stage your posts are little more than propaganda feeds, which is surely against the spirit of using a public discussion board?
You think the current Ukrainian leadership - led of course by someone with no military/ secret service/ nationalist/ partisan-political background - is ideologically incapable of negotiations, yet you make zero reference (once again) to the Russian leadership. You think the EU is incapable of negotiations, despite being entirely built on the basis of negotiation rather than use of force and having recently concluded one of the worlds most complex political negotiations in modern times (Brexit)?
And you expect people to take your output of what can only be described as Moscow-originated propaganda, seriously?
Do you not think that at this stage you're simply trolling and spamming the thread?
Putin and co found a way to recruit
Throw innocent people in jail on sham charges and then give them a “choice” of going to the special operation
From BBC correspondent in Moscow
if you get it, you get it
I dunno our gritty friend of Russia is an example of just how insane the Russian reality distortion and propaganda field is
It be like someone in a geography thread continually insisting the world is flat
It be funny if it didn’t distract attention from Russian criminal bullshit and the war they started for the most stupid of reasons which is leading to so much pointless death
Speaking of distractions, it feels like Ukraine are taking advantage of the new White House administration being distracted (getting MAGA loons into every high office) to ignore any fears of "escalation" that were frequently expressed by the previous incumbents. They've really been hammering Russia's oil/gas industry these last couple of weeks, and not a peep out of "the West". Two major refineries now completely off line for an undetermined period, and is it two or three pumping stations no longer feeding the European network since last night?
Previously, I was of the view that Ukraine might put on a bit of a show to emphasise for Trump how they were "winners" rather than "losers"; now I think they've moved past that, don't really give two fkks what Trump thinks and are just enjoying the breathing space that his election has granted them to lay into the Russians in any way they want.
Australia has given Ukraine an anti-drone weapon system called Slinger. it's not very heavy and I can easily see a variant of the tech being incorporated on tanks.
In fact deployment on tanks is specifically mentioned here:
Mind you, it's possible it proved to be a dud, as not a word of it's performance has come out since mention of units having been shipped to Ukraine were made in 2023.
Sure. Like any poster if I see an interesting post or contribution then I followup on it. Depends on if I have time or not.
Seeing as you raise it, I'm referring to news and analysis of the conflict from places like Forbes, Kyiv Independent and the Economist. This is mainstream, extremely pro-NATO media. Trying to say an outlet like Forbes is "Moscow-originated propaganda" is objectively incorrect. Its NATO and Ukrainian sources talking about the course of the conflict itself. You mightn't like what they're reporting, but that's something different.
As for the Ukrainian leadership being ideologically incapable of negotiations, that's an opinion I hold based on the evidence, not least of which is the legislation the leadership introduced to ban negotiations with Russia to appease their idealogical base. Was Zelensky at one time separate from the idealogical class? Sure. But now he is completely indistinguishable from those idealogical groups. It's not particular to Zelensky either. Often Zaluzhnyi is touted as a potential rival to Zelensky (hence his removal), but he is and always has been a true believer in the idealogy so he's not able to negotiate either.
As for the EU (and the UK) - they are completely incapable of negotiation. Their entire policy for the last 3-4 years has been no negotiations. They nearly lost their minds when Orban just went and spoke to both Zelensky and Putin to at least try understand what both sides wanted from negotiations. So again, the EU is ideologically incapable of negotiations.
I've said earlier that if Trump was smart, he would a) walk away from Biden's war, or b) to whatever extent he does negotiate, talk directly to Russia and cut Ukraine and the EU out of the talks - they would only enter them with the aim of sabotaging the talks. All that said, I don't think a negotiated peace will happen - the two sides (Russia and NATO) are simply too far apart. And its apparent by now Trump has no real idea what to do so they may never even happen.
the two sides (Russia and NATO)
Jesus..
Ok repeat after me. NATO are not in this war. You hear that, right? Now try a few more times to get it into that skull of yours.
NATO are not in this war.
How does that feel?
If NATO were in this war, it would actually have ended in 3 days.
3 hours….
And it's not "Biden's war". It's not the "war in Ukraine".
It is the illegal Russian invasion of Ukraine, a war crime, conducted with war crimes and atrocities.
”As for the EU (and the UK) - they are completely incapable of negotiation.”
why would EU or UK negotiate? @Sand
Will North Korea and Chinese puppet masters be also be present at the theoretical negotiations which Putin does not want to hold
Imagine being Ukrainian and reading the sh1te hat Sand comes out with. How insulting must it feel that your country isn't considered a side in a war when it has been invaded by a numerically superior neighbour and managed to hold them off for almost 3 (or almost 11) years?
Dismissing the existence of Ukraine in any aspect of this is 100% Kremlin propaganda
And in a textbook demonstration of peddling Russian propaganda, omits that Russian has demonstrated time and time again it is completely incapable of honouring any negotiated agreements. We don't have to look any further than the NATO Russia Founding Act and Budapest Agreement for proof of that.
There seems to be this common perception that tanks today need to become the equivalent of early Bolos, capable of taking on and surviving against any threat on its own. The reality, though, is that a tank is already plenty heavy enough just focusing on capabilities which only a tank can do, though that doesn't mean to say that it can't be done anyway. Active protection systems can be used to defend against drones, it's been done in testing.
More likely, however, is the use of systems on support vehicles providing a bubble of coverage. This isn't a new concept, the US has been paying attention to drone warfare for a while. I recorded this robotic anti-UAS platform three years ago, for example. Basically tell the AI "Tag along with me, shoot drones". Not in production, but an example of the thinking.
The current counter-drone system the US is fielding is M-LIDS, also a separate platform, as is Sgt Stout. Directed Energy Weapons (Microwaves, lasers) are also in the fielding stage. And that's before the US's significant electronic warfare capability, which hasn't been given to Ukraine. These, of course, also help non-tank units like light infantry.
Basically, a tank doesn't need to be equipped with its own counter-drone system. If it has a system for another purpose which can be used as a secondary counter-UAS role such as an RWS or APS, then great. If not, it should have friends which do.
They hiring for the meatgrinder in Dublin now
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dublin/s/R824fFLn2f
Well, if we apply your logic, the US and European nations should just mount up and smash through Russian lines all the way to Moscow, dismantle the current Putin sham of a regime and then decide what resources it feels like grabbing for themselves.
That's what Russia has done here. And you seem hell bent on interpreting everything in as pro-Russian a slant as possible, so presumably you'd have no issue with "The West" adopting similar strong arm tactics and wringing their hands that the Russians won't negotiate peace.
It's just so farcical.
Ukraine was an independent, democratic nation. It was perfectly entitled to chose whatever path it wanted in terms of which economic blocs it wanted to align with. It posed no military threat to Russia. Both Russia and Ukraine were enjoying perfectly good economic prosperity up to 2022. The invasion was 100% the brainchild of one man. Everything else is just a sideshow… nations are always going to get pissed off when some country starts to cosy up to a nation it sees as competition. It happens all the time around the globe. It does NOT justify a military invasion that must have cost the lives of at least half a million people at this stage. All while Putin and his oligarch elites are tucked up safe in their lavish compounds with the comfort of their billions in off shore cash.
Your posts speak to none of that, but go off on imagined tangents about pro-NATO news outlets and perceived intransigence of the Ukrainian leadership.
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Or force them into extreme poverty, so they they need loans at usurious interest rates, which in turn force them to sign military contract's.
The first time I ever heard this statement regarding roses was off a Russian.
And so it goes…
That isn't my logic. But you do demonstrate what I mean by an idealogical incapability to negotiate - your presentation of the conflict by its own logic rules out any possible negotiations, almost by design. It is this simple Good vs Evil tale that completely delegitimises the idea of negotiations. How can you negotiate with evil, right?
Dropping the idealogical blinkers, Ukraine is in locked into a war it is losing and despite the propaganda, there is no "one weird trick" that flips the tables. All the wunderwaffen have been deployed, and failed. NATO is not going to fight Russia for Ukraine - if they wanted to, they could have by now. We're beginning to see entire Ukrainian brigades like the 155th and 157th collapse.
Negotiations are in the interests of Ukraine. Fighting on to the last Ukrainian is not.
Hardly surprising that the orcs have about as little respect for each other as they do for the Ukrainians. Scum of the earth, Ukraine can never give up until every one of these degenerates are removed from their territory.
Look at the absolute fcukin' state of this yoke.
Second best army in the world according to some of the "experts" on here 😂
I always saw the Mad Max films as being prophetic.
