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It's disingenuous to pretend people who are arguing for an immediate end to the war by negotiations are in fact supportive of continuing the war and no negotiations ever.
One has to remember, the Ukrainians being polled are fed huge levels of propaganda about shovels, washing machines, human waves, glorious victory after glorious victory. And even in that environment, a majority is calling for an immediate end to the war by negotiations.
Disingenuous to cite a poll saying a majority in Ukraine don't want to continue the war.
That doesn't mean they want their country dismembered.
@Bitcoin "When the ruzzians are defeated, Ukraine regain all their sovereign territory and putler is hanging from a lamp post"
I'd much prefer a petrol station.
In a way casualties are better than killed because Russia has to look after all these badly busted soldiers. Very expensive. The dead ones are just left to the rats.
Its interesting how rattled NATO has acted over the past week. Multiple countries panicked mid week and closed down their embassies over what amounted to just a rumour. Ukraine criticised NATO for panicking, and then panicked itself on Friday by shutting down its legislature - again on nothing more than a rumour.
Following the Russian strike using its new Oreshnik missile, Rutte seemingly ran to Florida to meet Trump (not Biden, interestingly enough) on short notice, and that meeting is being followed up by an emergency summit between Ukraine and NATO for early next week. It all seems quite nervous.
The escalation by the Biden administration (NATO participation in strike on Russia, landmines, etc) does seem like it might help Trump end US - and by extension NATO - involvement in January 2024. Firstly, its quite obviously an attempt by his political enemies to straitjacket him into an unwinnable war. He can now politically walk away from Biden's war more easily because its so obvious Biden & Co. are trying to trap him in it. Secondly, he can honestly say that the US under Biden has tried everything, absolutely everything including direct attacks on Russia, and none of it has worked. Everytime a wunderwaffe was introduced, there is a blip of hysterical joy from the "friends of Ukraine" and then the grinding reality snaps back into place.
He also has another reason - Gallup polling is showing that a majority of Ukrainians favour an immediate end to the war by negotiations. There isn't a single region of Ukraine polled with greater than 47% support for continuing the war. The "friends of Ukraine" will of course ignore the democratic wishes of the Ukrainian people, but it does give Trump more room to exit the US from this doomed war.
”Reported attacks yesterday (Friday/Saturday night) against more targets in Kursk. However these attacks might just have been UAVs, so we need more confirmation.”
https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/weekend-update-108-ukrainian-ranged?
I assume that’s them s400 systems that mysteriously exploded
Do we know if there has been any missile attacks on Russia with western weapons since the Russians used it's new Oreshnik weapon the other day?
Russia has experienced a high amount of casualties (estimates from approximately 500k to 750k). It's difficult for Ukraine. Those facts aren't mutually exclusive.
Russia has had to resort to foreign mercenaries, prisoners, N Koreans, older soldiers, equipment from the 50's, Iranian drones, NK missiles - they are slowly grinding forward in certain areas (it's an artillery based army). It's the third largest military in the world + no restrictions for the war. Ukraine has had to fight that with it's arms tied behind it's back for 2 and a half years.
If Ukraine had what is wanted from the beginning with no restrictions it would likely be a very different story right now.
It doesn't matter.
If the orcs were winning as biggly as the vatnik crowd want you to believe, do you really think they would be begging North Korea and Yemeni rebels for help?
Did you find that source that Russians want to negotiate and there’s an offer on table?
Source: "Trust me, bro"
If those were accurate then why is Ukraine struggling so badly at the moment?
I think in years to come people will look back at forums like this in disbelief.
I agree, but not for the reasons you think 🙂
When the ruzzians are defeated, Ukraine regain all their sovereign territory and putler is hanging from a lamp post, people will wonder how a bunch of vatniks like yourself got it all so wrong.
I expect those are casualty figures rather than fatalities?
730000 dead orcs will leave the ruzzians in a sticky situation alright 😁
Why would a country with endless manpower have to resort to recruiting Yemenis?
Seems that the "Wunderwaffe" may not be so Wunderful after all!
Biden informed him. Trump doesn't care what happens, he just wants to get to Jan 20th asap
Russia is now to conscript from Moscow and St Petersburg which it has been unwilling to do until now. A backlash is predicted perhaps a coup or attempt on Putin himself?
Russians liberate more civilians
we are lucky they are so incredibly stupid
It will be Blow Fish next .
Hmmm I think it was Trump who okayed it with Biden to let them use long range missiles, very much a joint call.
There’s some borscht for thought for the propagandists
What happens if Ukraine is backed into a corner and faces (more) genocide but still has homegrown long range strike capabilities…
But I guess they don’t get paid to think, just lay down and die for dear leader 🤷♂️
besides, only moscow and petersburg should be targeted. Rest of Vatland is wasteland already.
being a vatnik is a genetical disease apparrently. No cure.
Remember the Putin boot lickers getting all excited about the obviously fake video of challenger 2 tank, well turns out it was fake
Discussed at end of previous Ukraine the latest pod
Also id add no country has been forced to join NATO. Countries want to join of their own free will
If Ukraine can't join nato Russia must give up its republics, which it bullied into being part of Russia. They can't complain about nato expansion while they are expanding by violence. Hypocrisy.
🤣🤣He won't do that again!!
Reports that Russians are now recruiting Houthi's for the war - the scraping of the bottom of the barrel continues
