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??What's putin's next red line for starting WW3?
Yes sure Hitler only wanted Austria and the Sudetenland as well. Far away countries of which we know nothing.
We’ve seen all this **** before. Dictators are the very same throughout history.
US state department says that no policy changes have been made regarding long range missile strikes into Russia.
People get into their little bubbles and will literally believe anything. It's mad stuff and i think the internet has destroyed any level of critical thinking and encouraged group think to 1939 Germany levels. Dangerous as f**k in all honesty.
3... Three years later
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Crazy stuff going on at the moment as Ukraine try to rally the world to defeat Sauron and Nato seem to have gone off on one also.
It must be all this new news coming in from the battlefield coming out, especially from Kursk which looks like it is turning into the debacle that a couple predicted a few weeks ago.
Incredible really, it's like being at the movies. Lord of the rings, Braveheart, star wars, harry potter, shawshank redemption and invisible Koreans.
OK then, but in my post you quoted, why do you seem to have completely missed the part where I clearly stated I also call BS when I see Ukrainian spin? I even give examples of what I see as same.
Like they didn't "want" Belarus but somehow there's a dictator there propped up by Russia?
A Russia who captured Ukraine without Ukraine putting up a fight, as you seem to want them to do, with Ukraine's resources, military etc as a vassal state is a totally different threat to one crippled by Ukraine's resistance. Resistance possible due to the commitment of the people of Ukraine but also the military and financial assistance provided by US, NATO, EU, the West.
The war in Ukraine is caused by Russia to all our detriment. Russia's violations of the Budapest agreement started when Ukraine was considering signing a treaty with the EU. Nothing to do with the US. Nothing to do with NATO. Russia sees Ukraine as a vassal state.
If conflict had anything to do with a real threat to Russia from NATO, Russia would not have stripped its forces from NATO borders to send to Ukraine.
Russia have done it over and over again and people still falling for their lies.
The only war mongers are those in the Kremlin and those who seek to reward them for their illegal war.
That NATO tweet is from 2 years ago. But you probably already knew that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/11a2tgz/nato_compares_ukrainian_conflict_to_harry_potter/
They're genuinely running out of them. No restrictions on the weapons is mainly it. Outside of that maybe tomahawk or other longer range missiles?
Must have hit a nerve. Not going through all that.
@odyssey06
The war in Ukraine is caused by Russia to all our detriment. Russia's violations of the Budapest agreement started when Ukraine was considering signing a treaty with the EU. Nothing to do with the US. Nothing to do with NATO. Russia sees Ukraine as a vassal state.If conflict had anything to do with a real threat to Russia from NATO, Russia would not have stripped its forces from NATO borders to send to Ukraine.
Ukraine was considering signing a treaty with the EU when the EU laid down the law it's either with us and no one else or it's that not with us. Such benefactors they were the.
And if NATO is no threat and not expansionist how come they managed to be at Russia's doorstep within just three decades? It's not Russia floating ships in the Gulf of Mexico and arming Canada. It's the US fkn around halfway across the globe on the doorstep of other countries. But of course it's those countries that are the problem. This is so warped and you're so caught up in it you dont even realise it anymore.
Believe it or not, there are worse things than war.
Russia didnt want Ukraine and they still dont. They certainly couldn't occupy all of it.
Of course they "wanted" it. And you don't need to occupy a whole country to do that. In WW2 did Germany "occupy all" of France, Holland, Belgium etc? No. That's not how it works.
You go into a country, overwhelm conventional forces loyal to same, take the capital, "replace" the leadership with your own guys and take over the existing state's civil and commercial levers of organisation and power. Job done. Then, if the people of that nation don't want you sit back and go through a long drawn out insurrection and/or civil war if some want you and others don't. In the vast majority of historical takeovers human nature kicks in. IE the majority of ordinary people just want to live their lives and will do so even if they hate the invader. Putin clearly attempted this and failed.
Do I think Putin could "take" more European countries? Not a hope in hell. Far easier to stew pro Moscow sympathy in places like Serbia, eastern Germany, Hungary etc, which he would hope would have a destabilising effect on the EU, which imho he fears far more than NATO. A people just over the fence that live better lives than your own people is far more effective and dangerous to him than missiles.
And of course it's always the Yanks/CIA/Deep State's fault. If you bother to actually read up on the CIA and their attempts at coups and all that, they're surprisingly crap. Indeed during the Cold War the Soviets were better at it. Even Prigozhin, the head of Wagner and the now memory holed coup when interviewed said the Kremlin's reasons for the invasion were BS.
Anyone else enjoying “Friends of Russia” furiously producing scutter 💩 while nervously looking up at the sky 🚀 ?
Day 1000 of the war and we have gems of wisdom being deposited along lines of “Russia didnt want Ukraine and they still dont”, yeh they just spent three years and over 700k casualties for the laugh of it
The thing is there's the real Russia and the fake Russia. You can bomb one but not the other. Or something along those lines anyhow. It gets complicated…
Best chance for Ukraine to "win" the war is for a total economic and political collapse in Russia. If the soldiers don't get paid and hence just go home to their families.
Makes me wonder would the ATACMS be best used on military stockpiles, or to further diminish the Russian economy, e.g. on oil refineries and so on.
And if NATO is no threat and not expansionist how come they managed to be at Russia's doorstep within just three decades?
And if Russia's no threat why did so many of its ex Soviet Bloc vassals rush to ask to join both NATO and the EU? They lived under Moscow rule so know them well and clearly preferred to choose and look westward. The only ones that didn't were Belarus, which may as well be Russia with the same guy in power for even longer than Putin and Ukraine.
One of the 7 GRAU arsenal's was hit last night. Over 100KM into Russia. Given it's proximity to Ukraine I wouldn't say it was as packed as the others they hit but a decent explosion none the less.
Coincidence this comes just after they received permission? I hope it's ATACAMS so they're not strictly limited to Kursk itself. Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk. No reason why they would limit them here especially when Russia literally has an active incursion into Kharkiv from Belgorod.
Straight from the horses mouth. Russia will be effectively creating digital money instead of printing it in a form of quantitative easing. Things can get messy with their inflation levels. The Russian central bank better lock those Windows. Good luck telling putting the war is at fault.
This strategy will postpone their issues but will make them worse down the line. Obviously raising funds from the international markets isn't going as planned. China mustn't be too keen bailing them out.
I'm surprised we've already reached this point but I did see analysis recently their massive national wealth fund has effectively run out of liquid cash. The rest of the still quite large fund is made up of assets that can't be quickly sold on.
https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/11/18/tsbzalet-milliardi-vgosbanki-chtobi-napolnit-voennii-byudzhet-putina-a148008
Probably the best way to win this. Strangle Russian resupply, logistics and weapons storage. Cant fight if they cant shoot.
Boom
https://x.com/mfs7786/status/1858774541495075008
Looks like things are escalating as Putin signs into law it's new nuclear doctrine.
1000 days of war. A horrible milestone. Hundreds of thousands killed and injured because a narcissistic and deluded old man with a huge chip on his shoulder over a lost empire wants to be remembered as another Peter the Great. Toxic masculinity at its absolute worst.
The near future looks dark for Ukraine but may it ultimately prevail.
A good thread on various Russian issues. No wonder the official Kremlin line to their followers is Ukraine must stop fighting and settle for peace. Don't arm them save lives.
Maybe just maybe it is because neighbouring countries apply to join NATO due to the threat of Russian invasion. How many countries has NATO invaded again? Honestly it is round and round in circles with you lot. This has been explained several times over the last 3 years and your and other Putin fanboy posts can only suggest ye are either trolling , too simple of mind to process the reality or just what I’d class as an evil people.
I will never understand the mental contortions necessary to go through to see such a mind-numbingly simple and obvious case of malfeasance, of a country just straight up engaging in a full blown invasion, and decide it is the US's fault somehow.
Would be like blaming Russia for Iraq.
The paper tiger does what it does best.
Signed Putin
HAHAHAHAHA!!
Of all the humdingers in this thread from the Vatniks this has to be top 3.
WTF was the thunder run on Kiev then?
The armored convoy miles long?
Putin annexing chunks of Ukraine?
I actually dont think I've ever read such pure unadulterated nonsense in my whole life. You are not a serious poster.
