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Note how the concern trolls are silent at the moment, always quiet whenever Ukraine is achieving something positive. If Russia starts to push Ukraine back, watch this space, they'll pipe up again.
Increase speed, drop down and reverse direction!
Ukraine may well keep throwing resources at kharkiv, the Ukrainian army want manoeuvre war as a way to break the dead lock , and this may well be it , the bigger this offensive gets ,the more it sucks in russian resources and troops , and Russia doesn't have long prepared positions , Russia can gamble on which way Ukraine will go , and build huge defensive a long way back from the front line -but you'd need to go a long way back to guarantee time to get it built,plus that almost abandons that area between the front and the defensive line to the oncoming Ukrainians -
Ultimately Ukraine has to replace the existing front in Ukrainian territory, with one exclusively in Russian territory, and the further south and east they can go , the more they deprive the Russians of supplies and the more they suck in resources from the Donbass, which was always going to be a nightmare to fight through ,
I'm actually surprised it took this long. Maybe Russia jets weren't operating as usual after they probably temporarily left the air bases that were attacked.
Looks like Ukraine have taken about as much territory now as possible and it's probably going to be mainly defensive from here on in.
I wonder how much damage a thermobaric bomb did? I can't see any other details.
Russia Deploys Devastating Thermobaric Bomb in Response to Ukrainian Incursion into Kursk (btimesonline.com)
Lol
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They are now moving rapidly sideways and diagonally comrade.
Nobody has done that. No need for the paranoid post.
Those materialists are always trying to make everything genetic. Alcoholism was 'genetic' for a while but not any more. Went out of fashion.
Ukrainians frightening the life out of Russians with their robot dogs.
The much battered enemy continues his cowardly advance.
So they were lying 4 days ago when they claimed the same thing?
Russia now saying they’ve stopped the Ukrainians from moving forward
I found the “planning to cross back across the border” bit even more hilarious
Budanov must be flooding the area with operatives who can either go to ground and or use the civilian panic to filter deeper into Russia
And spend months and years carrying out sabotage and executions from within Russia itself forcing the internal police to choose between policing or their current role of shooting fellow Russians who retreat
Not really, it will go on as long as russia can sustain it, Ukraine have to defend themselves, they don't have the option to stop, even if russia somehow made large gains, it would descend into guerrilla warfare and insurgencies.
When Ukraine retreat from the kursk region, the bots will start talking about peace again and everyone will ridicule them for doing so.
Add to that, that they'll have to commit troops and equipment to the border to prevent the Ukrainians repeating this here or at some other point along the border. This could stretch them so thin that multiple breakthroughs on the front line become possible.
Seems Putin is throwing the airforce at this incursion where they were hiding before over Russian soil and the Ukrainians were hand tied to take them out.
This is definitely an interesting development.
Maybe this incursion force too is completely devoid of Russian spies could be separate to the rest of the army fighting in Ukraine. Whatever it seems they've more freedom fighting on Russian soil.
Fascinating how some pro Russian posters are trying to frame this as “Kiev trying to hold territory in Russia” with zero evidence for such a claim
when it’s quite clear the aims of this are to
Not exactly a 1:1 analogy though, as Russia isn't Ukraine, invaders probably equally unwelcome in both countries
This is exactly what I was on about earlier. If they play their cards right it could be a turkey shoot. The Russian's are scooting around just above the tree line and there for the taking.
Oh yes, that too. I think fighterbomber or whatever its called confirmed that
Just going by the track record of Kyiv, Sumi, Kharkov and Kherson, once Ukriane liberste a region they do not give it up again
Also heard about another KA-52 shot down
Nice one.
you would think only an actual sociopath could do that but russian society seems to breed large numbers of people with sociopathic behaviour. Sociopaths is considered genetic but russian society makes me think it might not be the case considering the high numbers.
Who makes this stuff up 😂
Well it's a great distraction isn't it?
Yesterday's equipment losses -
Then there's also the abandoned Russian equipment from fleeing forces that Ukraine have managed to get. I've not seen as much detail in terms of munitions acquired but stuff like this
Ukrainian Forces Capture Valuable Russian T-72B3 Tanks (msn.com)
One particularly notable find is an abandoned T-72B3 tank near the town of Sudzha. This model, equipped with advanced thermal imaging cameras, represents a significant loss for the Russian military.
Absolutely agree. However I’m looking for stats on how many are in a Ukrainian brigade usually. seems to be conflicting info. Or is it that a brigade is a brigade regardless of country?
Russia may have more weapons, but they are inferior weapons. They may have a larger population, but they don't have the same amount of dedicated and professional volunteers that Ukraine have.
So Russia will send wave after wave of mobilised troops, mercenaries, duped immigrant workers and prisoners at the Ukranians using cold war era and North Korean equipment and munitions. How you figure from that that Russia is the only side that can win is utterly beyond me.
But then again, maybe you have sources of information that are not available to me!