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Big Russian ammo dump has been going all day.
as they say that if you repeat the ‘Lie’ (ie there was a deal ) often enough it will become true
"Citing unnamed sources from Zelenskyy's "inner circle"". Hmmm…I'm always suspicious when unnamed people are supposed to have said something.
I'm quoting Kuleba. He said Russia's demands were not acceptable.
The last line is absolutley brillant
So Russia WOULD LOSE ALL CREDABILITY
Sorry honey that boat has already sailed
Russian lies, peddled and discredited multiple times already on this thread. If you were actually engaged in critical thinking, you would have looked for more information, but nope, just latch into Russian propaganda and dump it here.
Here you go, bob's your uncle - the real reasons why there was no deal, and there never was any tangible deal, it was just the usual Russian bad faith.
Russian war crimes and atrocities such as Bucha. War crimes and atrocities you no doubt refuse to condemn without reservation:
"The first thing was the revelation of the atrocities, rapes, murders, massacres, looting, indiscriminate bombings and hundreds and thousands of other war crimes committed by Russian troops in the temporarily occupied Ukrainian territories."
And secondly, Ukraine did not trust to abide by any peace deal, based on previous deals they had broken:
Zelensky, Romaniuk says, had been sceptical about Russia’s willingness to stick to any peace agreements from the start.
Ukraine did not believe Russia was negotiating in good faith:
While talks continued in Belarus and Istanbul, Russia’s leadership kept repeating that it would reach the goals of its military campaign: ‘denazification’ (regime change) and ‘demilitarisation’ (the destruction of Ukraine’s military potential). The reality on the ground showed Russian troops wouldn’t have withdrawn from the newly occupied territories in the south and east of Ukraine, and were making preparations for lasting rule. Negotiators from the Russian side had been low-ranking politicians that had no power to sign any deals and no direct line to Putin, which was a signal to the Ukrainian negotiating team.
https://www.thebureau.news/p/no-the-west-did-not-sabotage-an-early
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/26582
Are these F16's ever going to arrive, or are they all empty promises
they have several credibility mines in siberia but they've press ganged all the workers to be slaughtered in Ukraine
Think they will be lucky to get double figures this year. Alternatively the dark horse Mirage 2000s might turn up first at this rate.
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High speed chase in Siberia. Police fire bullets on fleeing teenagers driving the national car brand.
But getting a bit closer to home in Russia…Just try being an ethnic Russian living in any of the Russian Republics and see how that goes for you in the popularity stakes… not to mention what might happen to you and yours if Putin ever loses power in Moscow….If that happened, your best bet as an ethnic Russian would be to pack your bags and head for Moscow,,,How do I know? I used to live there. Oh, and that tripe you posted about Russian being a democracy, with a constitution etc.. more Bullcrap. Russia is controlled by a murderous dictator, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, and he alone, is the Alfa and the Omega of all things legal or otherwise in Russia. The life of everyone in the Russian Federation depends on his whim. Don't believe me? You could always go there for a visit, and see what you think then, OK? But for certain sure, such a visit would radically change your views on Putin and his Russia..
🤣 Dukes of Blyat
The national airline of russia had a forced landing near the village of Sosnovo-Ozerskoye injuring six people. A criminal case has been opened for violating flight safety rules in the 1947 model aircraft.
"Krasnoyarsk authorities announced underfunding of the Norilsk development program from the federal budget. They say that for some reason Moscow has cut funding. Why would this🤔🤔🤔"
Krasnoyarsk residents are complaining Moscow are cutting funding for maintenance. Post sarcastically asks why would they do this with the image shown.
In your first link the sources of the info are Putin and his state spokesman, Peskov
The second link is a "news" site run by the Chinese state
Next up a report from Infowars perhaps?
They are on the way but it's slow progress, also the Russians are preparing for them (hitting airfields, etc)
They will definitely help Ukraine but keep in mind they are unlikely to be a big game changer. Not in the current proposed numbers anyway.
Two Patriot launchers supposedly hit. Where do they be moving them to in order to get hit. Afaik they were moving them and not set up to counter fire.
Any source for this bit of front line information?
Meanwhile more of putin's air force stopped from murdering Ukrainians defending their home:
https://unn.ua/en/news/ukrainian-military-shoots-down-russian-su-25-in-donetsk-region
It's all over YouTube. Mostly Indian news channels. But maybe we have to wait for confirmation that is if we ever do as that would be a big blow.
For somebody who says they don't know much about the Russians, it's wild that you're claiming to be in the know and justifying handing territory over to the Russians. The same Russians who are committing genocide in Ukraine. Doesn't sound like a great deal for those who will be subjected to genocide.
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The Russian's seem ruthless when they are finally provoked into attacking and unlike the USA, they are prepared to take heavy casualties.
Probably Definately the dumbest post Ive read all year.
Lot of competition today.
Did you miss the post where it was claimed Russia is a democracy because that is what the Constitution says!
Next up... it is not an invasion because Russia said it was a special military operation.
Remember this is the same Russia who openly lied about the contents of the Budapest Agreement after they had violated it.
But sure Russia negotiate in good faith and it is all the fault of Boris Johnson.
It is a loyalty test in Russia how outrageous they can lie in their propaganda and you have to go along with it.
Now, I'm no intellectual like engineerws and other peaceniks like him on here but here's how I see it.
Russia are Kunts, pure and simple. They'll have the eye out of your head and despise you for letting them take it. The West are kunts but in a nice-ish way where they'll do anything to rip you off but they are supposed to care about your feelings while doing it. Ukraine were reared by aforementioned absolute Russian kunts and now want to be like our kunts, who despite all their kunty flaws aren't so bad, as kunts go. It's a basic human right to choose which pack of kunts you're governed by.
So. All you kunts spouting pro Russian propaganda are really just a pack of stupid kunts for not recognising an absolute kunt from a halfway decent kunt, and if you live your life that way you are properly fucked because you will always be kunted upon and you'll never realise it. This makes you a sad kunt and to be honest there is no worse kunt than a sad kunt.
https://kyivindependent.com/russia-hit-mock-ups-during-recent-attacks-on-airfield-patriot-launchers-ukraines-air-force-says/
You'll be absolutely delighted right?? Right?
While much of this list is factually incorrect, including Ukraine and Syria is actually just vile and disgusting.
Remember readers, Russia invaded Ukraine to denazify it.
It must be true Russia said so!
The same Russia with a large neo nazi faction whose mercenary wing is named after Hitlers favourite composer Wagner!
There is a denazification operation going on in Ukraine alright. It involves the hundreds of thousands of Russian and Wagner casualties - raping murdering fascist scum. Ukraine is the one killing Nazis.
You can't just hide your head in the sand man, la Pen is close to getting a majority in France …
That post aged well! Four hours later, Le Pen finds herself relegated to third place in a three-horse race. Damned reality - keeps getting in the way of a good dose of doom-mongering.
I missed Syria…If Russia is the Soviet successor (and Russia is resurrecting the old Soviet iconography of late), poster probably should have left the Afghans off the list as well.
Good, I certainly won't be complaining that she didn't get enough votes. I still think putting your fingers in your ears and going la-la-la when it comes to war crimes on our side is the wrong way to go about it.
Can you give an update on where the left wing alliance stand on in Ukraine/Russia?
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