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Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,171 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    no way she gives up her favourite child

    Lizzie won't be around for ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Treppen


    People are thinking it'll be the trial of the century with all the Elites implicated and publicly shamed.

    In actuality it'll all hinge on one person's word against another. Case closed, problem solved, tie it up in legal (yet again).

    That's why she didn't need to abscond. She waited it out , got all the ducks in a row, gave assurances to those that wanted them and got prepped by her legal team.

    It'll all be a damp squib for the public gallery, with just some salacious headlines for the tabloids.

    I mean, if there's one person you want to control how a story plays out, Robert Maxwell's daughter is about as good as you'll ever get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,449 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Treppen wrote: »
    People are thinking it'll be the trial of the century with all the Elites implicated and publicly shamed.

    Anyone that's thinking this is absolutely deluded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,781 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Lizzie won't be around for ever.


    yeah had wondered about this, good chance the queen dies in the next couple of years and Andrew might not get the same favourable treatment off a new King Charles as he does off his mother.

    For brothers the two of them are complete opposites with Charles being the old fogey conservationist and Andrew the party playboy. I doubt they even get on and AFAIK its been a long long time since the two of them were even photographed together as brothers. Id imagine in private Charles is actual fuming with Andrew for dragging the royal family through the mud like this. He is the successor to the crown so he will be ultimately inheriting this mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    no way she gives up her favourite child

    Her dog :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    yeah had wondered about this, good chance the queen dies in the next couple of years and Andrew might not get the same favourable treatment off a new King Charles as he does off his mother.

    For brothers the two of them are complete opposites with Charles being the old fogey conservationist and Andrew the party playboy. I doubt they even get on and AFAIK its been a long long time since the two of them were even photographed together as brothers. Id imagine in private Charles is actual fuming with Andrew for dragging the royal family through the mud like this. He is the successor to the crown so he will be ultimately inheriting this mess.

    Although there is the association between Charles and Jimmy Saville and Peter Ball and his favourite uncle Mountbatten. That was all kept fairly under wraps.

    For Andy I think it was the Shady dealings he undertook in his diplomatic role that will save his ass . Epstein was a master of hiding money for individuals and organisations and I've no doubt Andy was party to it. Stephen Hoffenburg, Epstein's first big business partner, did an interview last week on a Spotify podcast. Their sexual misdeeds are actually helping all of them because it distracts from the other shady dealings.

    Talk of a secret dead man's switch is funny in a way because it's right in front of all our eyes for the last 2 years... The flight logs and Epstein's black book. Nobody on it has been quizzed about their connections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    A federal judge on Thursday agreed with Ghislaine Maxwell’s request to keep certain details in the criminal case against her secret — finding that information would be too “sensational and impure” to reveal to the public.

    US District Judge Alison J. Nathan issued a ruling on redactions that Maxwell had asked for regarding transcripts the government filed under seal last month.

    “Those portions of the transcript, which were redacted in the civil matter, concern privacy interests and their disclosure would merely serve to cater to a ‘craving for that which is sensational and impure,’” Nathan wrote in the order.

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/judge-says-ghislaine-maxwell-case-details-too-sensational-and-impure-for-public/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    biko wrote: »

    What insane logic is this? Transparency will somehow lead us away from the truth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Treppen


    After watching the college admission scandal documentary on Netflix I wonder about all Epstein's dealings with universities and money. The guy has his paws in colleges/academics and philanthropic donations flowed through him like a running tap.

    Himself, Andy and Gislane's pervy tendancies are really serving them well to throw up mud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Tell me you’ve been to Epstein’s Island without telling you’ve been to Epstein’s Island

    https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1800698597488435711

    edit can't make it a hyperlink for some reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Yesterday we were told that the Epstein files would be released. The Judiciary Committee delivered a Rick Roll. A senator tasked with unearthing many US government secrets was kept in the dark, while conservative influencers waved binders around.

    But at least the Tates made it to Florida.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,425 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Pretty much everything they were given was stuff already released, and incredibly redacted.

    It was a bullsh*t PR thing to act like they released the Epstein files while doing nothing but trying to stick two fingers up to the media by giving it to influencers. Absolute nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    And on the same day the Tates arrive in Florida. It's almost as if they know they can drag their base around by the nose ring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 200 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Story 1: (from 2023) JP Morgan’s $290million settlement with Epsteins accusers approved by Judge. The judge in that case said he’d never seen a bank so eager to settle a lawsuit and avoid a trial.

    Story 2: (today) FBI Director Kash Patel says some Epstein files likely destroyed and after combing through files no significant bombshells exist.

    But if there weren’t any bombshells that means JP Morgan paid out an unheard of $290 MILLION settlement 18 months ago for absolutely nothing?

    This is how raw power works under a sick system.

    자본주의 사회의 정부는 자본가 계급의 문제를 관리하는 부자들의 위원회에 불과합니다 - James Connolly, 1915


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭engineerws




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,709 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,358 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Trump saying it was made up by Obama, Biden Comey. That only '' creditable files'' should be released



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,358 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Both Democrats and Republican administrations have kept Epstein files secret, which tells me it hurts a lot of both Democrats and Republicans to release them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,778 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    It’s probably big donors rather than party members. Party members can be thrown under the bus, wealthy donors less so.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭engineerws


    If you can suffer listening to Tucker and Daryl

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/6SF12zBDNvnegIQ9ZwIzYu?si=N0AxY18_SFCeFvw2qCvrhw

    The big thing for me was Les Wexner gifting the most expensive house in new York to Epstein and his connection with Israel. Also, Maxwell similarly being a Czech jew that got pulled in Zionism and 40 girls speaking out against Epstein resulting in a bon sentence (he only had to be in prison for 12 hours except Sunday and had his own private wing).

    The most likely explanation seems to be the island etc was an Israeli blackmail operation but who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,589 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'm in immediate danger of thinking that Tucker Carlson might be a decent journalist.

    Of course he's so duplicitous it's hard to know where he stands.

    Even if he was standing in front of you, you'd want to looking over your shoulder to see if he's there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Why is Israeli the most likely?

    Anyway, I found this video a good overview, personally I think the idea of a neat bundle of files a bit reductive. It looks like the Palm Beach trial has enough info to show where the trail leads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,589 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Probably something to do with all of his known ties to Israel.

    He wasn't friends with lads from Haiti.

    He had a former Israeli PM visit his home, in disguise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Les Wexner got the 'help the old country spiel' and then Epstein was given power of attorney over his empire and the mansion in New York. Epstein had previously helped run the Iran Contra scandal. He took refuge in Israel there while awaiting the results of his first trial and Israel has a record of accepting child molesters from the US,

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/

    Circumstantial evidence suggests Israel, there's lots of it and well worth listening to Daryl in full but he also addresses Podesta and there's no smoking gun. So on it goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭batman75


    The whole Jeffrey Epstein situation is puzzling. He was a fraudulent teacher. Then becomes a banker with Bear Stearns. Then begins accumulating astonishing wealth including being made power of attorney over Les Wexner empire and is given a mansion by him in NY the largest private residence in Manhattan.

    We're it a novel it would be dismissed as simply implausible. Was he a Mossad agent like Robert Maxwell? Why aren't any of the men who abused children not locked up? Is Ghislaine Maxwell the sacrificial lamb? Was Epstein murdered? Was Virginia Guiffre suicided?

    Association with Epstein finished Prince Andrew as a working royal. Even though Trump now calls Epstein a creep the two were very close until falling out over a property deal apparently. As for Ghislaine it's clear that she facilitated Epstein's supply of children to abuse. As a woman she let the girls feel safe. Little did they know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,637 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Why aren't any of the men who abused children not locked up? “

    So Epstein obviously abused dozens of girls at least on a daily basis over many years.

    But who are the “others” ? Leaving Randy Andy aside, we haven’t heard of a big list of names or accusations -I recall a senator here or a business man there, in the news accused of sex assault but I don’t recall any big list of perpetrators- is there one? Was there mass abuse by dozens of Epstein associates? It’s certainly been speculated many times in media reports that there are many Epstein perpetrators but so far we’ve heard very little about them - I wonder will these infamous files provide any more clarity on this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭batman75


    Howdi there are flight logs of men on the infamous 'lolita express'. It doesn't imply automatic guilt of child abuse but does leave a lot open to question. If Epstein was a Mossad agent taping powerful men having sex with minors would leave them completely open to blackmail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,637 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I get that- but I imagine the vast majority just had legitimate business or charity interests with Epstein and nothing more -obviously someone like Clinton stands out and obviously will bring on the heat of MAGA given he’s a Democrat and ex President but again it’s purely guilt by association



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭batman75


    Aside from the guilt or otherwise of men on the lolita express his attainment of wealth is not answered plausibly from anything I head read or listened to.



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