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I note that Putin has threatened UKr - with severe consequences- if the ‘West ‘ allows it to use its weapons to bomb/attack targets on Russian land.
So to continue the ‘war of words’ strategy , why not the following words from the UKr side - for whatever reason !!!!!!!!! (1). Tell Ru that if it bombs civilian targets again that it can expect severe consequences at a TIME OF OUR CHOOSING
(2) we note that you are buying/ getting arms from China, North Korea and Iran and using them on our sacred soil. You, Putin , and these supporters will suffer the consequences in due course
up till now the conversation has been around we should be happy with Putin because his replacement - whenever- probably will be a lot worse. What has changed in your opinion
@patnor1011 threadbanned
nice
jake sullivan quinched that very fast
Perhaps Europe can put pressure on China to put manners on Russia.
If they ,China act in an unfriendly way towards Europe then we could punish them in a recoprocal fashion.
Russia has invaded a sovereign country on our border and what has the Chinese government done to either prevent the attack on the first place or support Ukraine ever since?
So Trumps plan to end the war in one day is to bomb Moscow... well that might end a lot of things in one day alright.
Of course it is all lies / playing to the gallery in front of him whatever will get a reaction.
It certainly needs to be happen but the next key thing is to make sure they have enough of the long range weapons needed. Otherwise it'll just be another of the false dawn "game changers" of which there have been many now. I certainly don't think it'll drive Russia from the stolen territories, but it will be a help. Protection for the skies would be an even bigger help
Ah these are the republicans I remember, looks like they finally realised that Russia is not particularly highly regarded by most of the population
It was a province sundered from Romania by the Soviets in 1940 and then planted by Ruzzian/Soviet settlers. And the Ruzzians, in their usual manner, after Moldavia got its independence, decided to cut a chunk off it, occupy it and declare a spurious ''independence'' recognized by practically nobody.
Tide is definitely shifting for sure on using western supplied weapons on Russia soil.
As with everything, artillery, tanks, cruise missiles, fighters.... Just takes one country to change their stance and the rest follow (eventually)
This has been gathering momentum for a while now. I don't know if Ukraine got the go-ahead yet. Can't wait to see what happens.
Didn't the UK already announced that Ukraine can hit Russian targets with their supplied weapons? UK also being a NATO country, same for Estonia, Sweden, Norway etc...
It's only big news if the UK couldn't give Ukraine the greenlight to use storm shadows within Russia as it's a joint venture with France.
Interesting-
Perhaps there has been a longterm (secret) agreement between Western governments and Russia along those lines.
Whether that was right or wrong it may be that those governments have to respect such an agreement.
Don't forget there must be a hope that some of those around Putin may be amenable to forceful but honest language and may be able to twist Putin's arm(a euphemism I hope) when the time is right.
In all the hoopla today about what type of war this it, some major news that Belgium will send 30 F16s over next few years and billions in aid (unlike us in Ireland)
When will governments in the West ever f***in realise: telling Ukraine not to cross certain lines that would provoke Russia does not earn respect and goodwill from Russia, but only contempt. Every single day Russia pushes boundaries, not just in Ukraine but in all of Europe, with sabotage, spying, election meddling, physical violence, etc etc, and it will keep doing so as long as the only response from Europe is impotent expressions of "outrage" rather than hitting back in the same form.
RuZZian stooge Mick Wallace's campaign material arrived today. Slogan is "Good Trouble." He's not worth the sweat off the testicles of the man he's stealing the quote from. Shameless cnut.
Hopefully his constituents are smart enough to not vote for that maggot.
@patnor1011 is it Kharkiv or Kharkov?
I see France is sending their foreign legion troops to Ukraine.
Probably there for a while now. Others will follow soon.
Quickest route for that is for Russia to leave Ukraine to pre-2014 boarders.
It's actually that simple.
Belgorod
I think a clear education for people would be the venn diagram for COVID deniers and russian tankies.
Nothing you have posted indicates a deep insight into what is happening in Ukraine. Further emphasised by you not caring about what happens.
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Remember when Russian heli's and jet's were dropping out of the sky over Belgorod. I knew it was patriot's based off the videos of the missile's hitting them.
It's nothing short of disgraceful Russia and Germany giving them an earful. No surprise they actually ran out of air defence missiles after it was threatened.
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1795449109391782116?t=qk3ODScD3UwlhLzMIaHQEg&s=19
He is talking about Hamas, not the Palestinians as a whole. Though I realise you are all too happy to draw no distinction.
His comments were also made on October 9. I expect he might take a more balanced view now.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation.
The Israeli state in its current form is a state terrorist.
A bit like Stalin versus Hitler: there doesn't have to be a good guy in a war, sometimes both are awful.
The cause of Palestine and the cause of Hamas are directly linked however.
You can support Palestine and the Palestinian people, but not support Hamas.
Zelensky knows that the cause of Israel and Ukraine are one that the cause of Russia, Iran and Palestine are one.
Neither side really hides that, though some in the West pretend otherwise, for many reasons.
Very very nice touch indeed ..
Yes, this is suspicious and quite strange that most members of Georgian parliament voted for this undemocratic law, disregarding popular protests. How are they going to explain this decision to their voters in the next election?
