https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/05/01/ev-sales-slide-is-becoming-increasingly-dramatic-simi-data-show/
Despite more new cars being sold - the share of EV cars fell further. This is despite there being no more supply issues and a much greater selection of vehicles available along with improved technology
Still over 9k sold since January. It's a drop on last year obviously, but 2023 was a bumper year. New EV sales almost doubled the existing fleet.
Mostly got to do with the lack of clarity on future infrastructure and pricing by the likes of ESB for charging especially when you don't have your own front garden.
The "own front garden" thing is way overstated. Something like two thirds of existing vehicle owners have off street parking. That's 1.6 million cars. And an existing fleet of 60k BEVs is a drop in that ocean.
No its not,
Below is a map of all the public chargers (not a single one) in the northern part of swords, in excess of 20,000 inhabitants, many in mid terrace and apartments, now ask yourself why anyone in this area without their own front garden would buy an EV?
People often talk about range being an issue but I think charging is one of the main issues surrounding EV
This is a very balanced discussion by EV owner James May
Sounds like you do the same journey in similar location to me. My trip is Enniscorthy to city center return. If I'm low on battery I do exactly the same as you.
No one without home charging should buy an EV IMHO. It would be madness as not only would it cost more than petrol/diesel, it's a lot more hassle.
But the point above was that only 60k EVs exist from a potental market of 1M plus with off street parking currently. Target the low hanging fruit.
Crucial factor is the growing percentage of people renting - 30% of dwellings are rented. Zero incentive for landlords to install and manage chargers
All new apartments and developments with shared parking are required to meet a minimum amount of EV charging provision and ducting for the rest of the spaces. I can't see the increased the number of people renting coming from existing housing stock so overtime the renters will have more choice of property that is equipped with charging facilities.
My own reason for thinking that new sales have gone into reverse is that established and trusted brands in the Irish and European Market have not provided a compelling reason to upgrade. Range needs a substantial improvement every three years to maintain sales until it reaches 800km real world motorway.
Tend to agree. A lot of people have houses suitable for home charging. A few things might help......
Lower manufacturers prices
introduce longer warranty periods for EVs- 5 years minimum
Accelerate as/ when possible implementation and installation of large charging hubs
Government nudging by......
Info campaigns promoting EV ownership- run seminars etc to provide required practical information and advice
Support technical training to increase EV service sector
Targeted funding in helping switching to EV from ICE easier
800km real world motor way? where do you pluck that from?
Manufacturers have a few billion € compelling reasons to get you to switch starting Jan 1st 2025.
Yes, and this will be popcorn time I think as not only are the fleet CO2 limits reduced but the calculation method changes too. I reckon the new EV prices will go very low sometime next year (unless the manufactures really increase the ICE prices to curb demand).
I regularly use the same route depending on my soc and mood, it's a shorter distance and more interesting going through a few villages which rarely now have a traffic problem
That's exactly my point. The percentage of people with home charging options that wants an EV and already have an EV is high. EV sales will either level or fall off simply because the rest of the population that actually want an EV have no viable charging options.
It's that simple.
Certainly scope for improvement here all right.
what about the people who an EV is suitable for and have home charging, there is a huge population of them out there, id be targetting them first.
If as @ELM327 pointed out only 6% of people with off street parkers have EVs, then that's a heck of a lot of growth to happen. I wouldn't call 6% of an addressable market saturated.
You can bring a horse to water, it's the people who actually want an EV that should be catered for instead of forcing it down the throat of those who don't.
Just build local infrastructure with modest pricing and the market will flourish
800km is typically the absolute maximum distance a driver will do in a day. Overkill for the Irish market but that is the long term destination with batteries imo. It's also what many cars can currently do on a single tank.
Once that is reached - which is about 200kwh, I suspect the tech will focus on increasing energy density to reduce overall weight, rather than adding ever larger batteries to cars.
So only people with off street parking should be catered for?
That's not what I said is it. When you make a statement such as below, don't be surprised when you are called out for 6% not being a high number.
The percentage of people with home charging options that wants an EV and already have an EV is high. EV sales will either level or fall off simply because the rest of the population that actually want an EV have no viable charging options.
Saturation of customers with off street charging capability is not the reason sales are down this year.
Home charging and off street charging are not the same thing. I'm not going to hold your hand but for one thing Off-street parking still includes among other things the 10s of thousand of apartment allocated parking spots with no infrastructure.
The problem is simple, of you don't own a house with a garden it's very unlikely you will buy an EV for personal use even if you want one.
but it just leads to a lot of hassle and wasted time having to detour,
But it's OK to undergo the hassle of complaining about EVs on boards. Also wasted time 😊
Now, if you've had an EV, you could be complaining on boards WHILE your car was charging… just sayin'
I think anyone who really wanted and was in a position to purchases an EV has purchased one. The others either don't want one or not in a position. The drop in sales in stark. I wonder how many of the EV that were registered were purchased by businesses to avail of the lower BIK, I'd say a lot
Phobia is a Greek word while the other ones are Latin words so let's make it fully Greek - odoenergophobia (road-energy-fear) 😎
No. But it should be the first one as it's the lowest hanging fruit. Do nothing different and save money.
It's a lot easier than hey spend more money on electricity and waste hours of your week charging, for those with no home charging.
Big strategy change in Tesla sales tactics. Must be a glut of vehicles at factories. I see spots cornered off in shopping center with model Y Tesla branded test drives. Wicklow.
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