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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭REDBULL68


    Not yet locals will put it up tomorrow, he literally grabbed the kid and tried to make a run for it ,the mam was in the house collecting something and kid was in the garden, luckily there were people on the street next door,if the guards hadn't come ,he was history.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    This story just keeps on giving and giving :) , they must be literally wetting themselves in Downing Street.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭boetstark




  • Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So what? Starmer was asked just yesterday if he planned to keep it in place and he said no, he doesn’t believe in the scheme. It was only ever a gimmick to appeal to a section of the Tory base and even that has fail, The Conservativess are now polling at just 18%, that’s even lower than Liz Truss managed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It's already causing the EU to break up with the UK gone. We like to slag the UK for Brexit but that did really serious permanent damage to the EU. There are many countries that could be next in line to leave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Sunak having an absolute ball at the expense of the self-righteously stupid Irish elite.

    Our leadership is so bovine it can make even the notoriously mediocre Rishi look like Machiavelli.

    The offer to join Rwanda is half-trolling but we should until we have our own deterrent devised and implemented.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    For a lad who for some weird reason has started referencing world history, your grasp of it is appalling bad.

    Also why the weird emphasis on skin colour? Channelling your inner Humza Yousaf?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    I'd imagine they're more concerned with this mornings election results.

    Looks like a wipeout for the Tories, I wonder can they cling on until the GE now, especially with talk of the knives being out for Sunak lately.

    Who would have thought voting for a party with empty 'taking back control' slogans would have worked out so badly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,453 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    It's hard to keep up with this thread now a bigger story than Tubridy, whoever he was lol.

    Had some hope for the Social Democrats after an initial good showing but are now no better than Labour.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Jesus listening to morning Ireland would boil your pi$$.

    Absolutely no balance, not even a whiff of suggesting that these lads have deliberately travelled through multiple other safe countries to get here and questioning why they would do that?

    Or even a hint of suggestion that you know, the fact they've done that they're no longer fleeing persecution or war. In fact they're just fleeing personal preference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    There was a bipartisan deal agreed to clamp down on border immigration but Trump ordered the Republicans not to support it as he wants the current situation to continue so he can campaign on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,417 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    If you're going to sleep rough, why not pitch your tent in the D4 area. The residents are not happy.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/05/03/asylum-seekers-pitch-tents-in-park-on-st-marys-road-in-ballsbridge/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Jesus if we had competent journalists these frauds wouldn't come near a radio interview.

    Theyre spouting such $hite and being asked no difixult or indeed logical question.

    It's like a Putin interview. This dose is just being allowed spew unchallenged pony.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23


    @Montage of Feck

    The same aswell. Really did. Was nearly giddy with the excitement. But the shitshow on immigration and the dogmatic stance of the left and their version of a free for all has left me feeling not a **** chance. Holly Cairns had potential. All these years as a working class person leaning left, i’m now ideologically and politically homeless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy


    If The Irish media did their jobs of challenging the government, instead of pushing propaganda for them, then we would be in a better place. Politicians responsible for current policies, or lack of them, would have lost elections long ago but for the media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Yeah, you'll leave it at that because you know full well you are derailing the point and taking what I said well out of context. Of course there has been war and destruction perpetrated all over the world by all races and ethnicities, but the person I responded to was talking about multiculturalism in Europe ... so the conversation was focused on Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23


    there is no balance on irish radio or RTE. None. Lads travelling through multiple districts before they think ya know i’ll give Ireland my next stop. And we are meant to feel sorry for these lads? seriously?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    People are ignoring the elephant in the room when it comes to housing. Its not just finding accommodation for incoming asylum seekers, whether its 13k or 20k this year. We have currently around 100k Ukrainians in Ireland, most of who are likely to stay here. Where do we find houses for these, they can't live in hotels forever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Again, apparently nobody is able to read the post without jumping to wild conclusions. So Europe has a violent warring history and pointing this out means that I am saying that Europe should destroy itself again ? I mean, yeah, I can see why you think my argument is unhinged — if you take the argument and apply a completely random unhinged view to it that I came nowhere near suggesting.

    If someone says that European cities are in decline caused by migration, it's perfectly OK to actually set out a historical timeline to — ya know — actually look at whether Europe is in a worse state now than it was before the migration trends of the last few decades.

    So yeah, go mad about that, have a cry, interpret it as me saying that Europe should burn everything to the ground, or actually address the point. Up to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Try this:

    1. Read the first sentence of your post to yourself again.
    2. Read my posts on this point.
    3. Discover that you are making the same point as me.

    By the way, point of order and all. The rebuilding of the post-war European economy was funded by the US....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    From the article…

    Planning rules around modular builds may be changed to give the State the
    ability to build a greater level of rapid builds for international
    protection applicants as well as Ukrainian refugees.

    At present, regulations allow the Government to fast-track the development
    of modular units for Ukrainian refugees. Two Government sources said
    that this may be extended to include units for international protection
    applicants and, eventually, students.

    You can see the governments priorities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    And the best part is it was some of the locals who volunteer with Tiglin who suggested it to them ! no doubt the local residents are delighted with their do gooder neighbours. Confirmations to be held there this weekend also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    Sure didn't they do it in Cork recently. To hell with the upcoming future of the country.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41311549.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    While I am unsure as to why my comments make you think my grasp of world history is appallingly bad (you can let me know which of those factual events I mentioned didn't actually happen) you, like a few others on this thread, seem to really hone in on some white guilt narrative. Bit sensitive and all.

    Sadly, the point was being made about multicultural European cities becoming unrecognisable or in decline. So if someone says that, I am inclined to say OK let's go back and see what wonderful high point we were at prior to multiculturalism. For reasons beyond my self-hating control unfortunately,that means looking a time when it was more or less just white Europeans about the place* — so that's where my apparent "weird emphasis on skin colour".

    This is not to say migration has not caused problems in European cities. It absolutely has. But the more dramatic, sensationalised outcries of Europe and its cities declining from migratiom from some glorious high point before modern day migration mean that it's perfectly rational to actually set out this timeline of apparent decline.

    *please don't freak out lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Spin up a thread so.

    What white guilt narrative? You are the one who brought up skin colour - i mean who would have thought that the people of predominantly white countries, would be, well white? Which has nothing to do with the current refugee policy in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,990 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    To be fair, not much balance is allowed in this thread. Posters here are so reactive and never try and understand the more insightful posts. If posters come on this thread and don't immediately state that immigrants and NGOs and whoever else are the devils work, they are immediately and forever labelled as lefty whatevers.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Absolutely nobody has an issue with sustainable migration here where people can be housed and contribute and have certain skills.

    Knowing some Ukrainians, many of them are highly qualified individuals who should be given the chance to work in their fields of expertise. Potentially they are a great addition long term to Ireland. Likewise other skilled migrants.

    What we are seeing now is not sustainable.

    We also need to tighten up what are and are not safe countries. Anyone who flies into Dublin airport with luggage and a large sum of money on their person, who are obviously reasonably well off, coming from an allegedly unsafe country such as Nigeria should be sent right back.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    out of curiosity, what would you consider a more insightful post?



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