My thoughts and actions.Stocked up and will head Newry for restocking
If I lived in Dublin I think I'd leave all my cans and bottles outside The Dail
No escape.
What happens on June 1st?
Yes, things are complicated enough with three different types of stock in shops without mixed cans in a mult pack.
At this stage June 1st can't come soon enough.
Yes it is very strange. They were delivered by Tesco on 14th February and I waited until they were all done to do a return.
They mentioned RVM but not actual vending machines.
I never saw a vending machine there but I had a few pints in the bar.
(not the member's bar !)
Maybe someone else will clarify what Newstalk left hanging.
That's really strange.
To have two different types of can in a multi pack is almost impossible.
The cans come off the line and are wrapped in plastic.
Unless someone did it deliberately it's hard to figure out how it happened.
Well, I did read the article quickly, but my take on it, (never being inside Leinster House or Gov't Buildings that it referred to other than the famous subsidised Leinster House Bars, but vending machines and the like. If anyone has further information on this, I would love to see it.
There are no deposits on containers above 3 litres, any chance the drinks companies will develop a 3.001 litre container for soft drinks 😀
As the crow flies between the RVM and the customer service checkout desk there was about 6 feet.
Was it the same shop that the machine was in / outside of or another premises then the voucher needs to go back to original place.
I can easily see this move causing a drop in recycling numbers not an increase. They have assumed recycling numbers would stay the same as before, and the introduction of the RVMs would be a top-up to those numbers. However, the last 3 times I went to the RVM, a number of my barcoded bottles or cans were not accepted. There was no bottle/can bank there, so they went into the bin outside the shop. I'm hardly going to carry them around the shopping centre with me and then bring home to put in my green bin am I?
After my 3-4 trips, the first time when my 15 cent voucher was not recognised by the shops scanners, I'm over it and all cans/bottles are back to going in my green bin.
I did my first return of cans last night. I had 18 Diet Coke cans all from the same multi-pack. 12 were accepted and 6 were rejected. The 6 don't have the Return symbol or any barcode. But I was charged a deposit based on all 18 cans in the pack. Up until now I have recycled 100% of my waste possible in my green bin, but the 6 cans went into a bin outside the shop, as I was heading out. I usually only enter a supermarket on my way home from work, so making a specific trip from home to bring these back is a nuisance.
It's very confusing at the moment.
There are three different types of stock on sale
1 has logo and barcode, deposit charged and refundable
2 has barcode but no logo, deposit charged and refundable
3 may or may not have a barcode but is old stock, no deposit should be charged
You can check the barcode on the DRS website.
Why are we being charged deposit on cans than don’t have the repak logo therefore not accepted by the machine. Driving mad!!
All may not be what it seems in the Newstalk piece.
Leinster House may just be availing of the HORECA exemption which is available to all bars and restaurants.
Under this the business still pays the deposit to the wholesaler doesn't charge the deposit to the customer and retains the can/bottle on the premises.
Perhaps if shops start seeing a decline in drinks sales the whole scheme might start to become unpopular with the retailers which are a very powerful lobby.
Wouldn't that be something. I suspect the boyos behind this scheme would rather eat grass than see it fail (not that theyd be held to account anyway if it did). The Ireland solution to signs of rejection would probably be compensate every stake holder involved to keep Re-Turn between the ditches. Not the customer obviously. Higher deposits to "encourage" participation for us mugs since we aren't behaving ourselves.
Have to say it’s definitely putting me off buying drinks in shops now. I have loads of cans of coke for now as I stocked up when they were on special at 24 cans for €10 before the scheme came into effect. Sadly, you will never see those prices again what with the deposit on the cans, but now shops are just price gouging when it comes to drinks.
When I’m done I think I will just drive to Newry to stock up on drinks and alcohol now, with the MUP here also having an effect on alcohol prices.
I was always meticulous about recycling at home, but can’t be bothered having a separate bin for cans and bottle to be returned to the machine. I don’t have the space for it.
everyone is, as it's lovely to have a bit extra to spend/save. if i can think of any more deposit return related tips i'll be sure to let you all know by sharing them here. At the moment all i can think of is checking the tables and bins (for deposit bottles and free tea/coffee stickers) whenever you pass through a mc donalds lol. Also the younger crowds in food halls usually seem to leave a mess with their bottles after drinking instead of binning/returning them.
Sadly i'm not allowed to share any of my cans/bottles i get from work as i'm allowed to take as many as i like and as many as i can carry, under the conditions that i don't make a mess, i don't make a habit of it everyday of the week (i only go by there every 3 or 4 days anyway) aslong as i don't bring other people in with me, and the most important rule he says for legal reasons: aslong as i don't share the cans/bottles with anyone else. He says it MUST be me or anyone else he employees, as he's paid the deposit on them all upfront and legally is'nt allowed to permit non- employee's to redeem the deposits on them. (something about company expenses or legal responsibilities to non-workers, and insurance only covering employee's, and not being allowed to give anything that can result in an income or financial gain to non employees even if its as low as 15 cent). But if there's ever any job openings here i'll let you know. i wouldn't mind sharing as quite often there's more than i can carry left over anyway, like by the hundreds. it's like a free tip up for grabs to any employee that wants to avail of it, and at no extra cost to him since they're going in the landfill bins anyway.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Going to fire off a good few emails this am to TD's.
I'm looking to make some income as well.
some shops exempt if too small for a machine but still have to charge
Wasps alive I like it.With global warming that the greens want it'll be biting mosquitos in residence.Wasps mind their own business.Mossies not.
This is me.
Same thing happening in Lidl before the return scheme started.Put back in with a different "face" showing and the can or bottle would be accepted.Other times more than 3 attempts needed
you got all that from a hand?
I thought you were a man, it's amazing the things you learn form pics posted here! 😂