I strongly suspect there's a few on this thread whose only thought is that Putin gets the job done before the next gas bill comes in.
Very sad watching prime time this evening with the mother staying in Kiev with her baby. I pray to God they both are safe. I have a new born baby and it brought tears to my eyes watching it.
edit Too slow
So after the dail meeting today to discuss Ukraine, what are we actually going to do to help that country?
He's not my type 😮😁
Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, all in NATO.
Rarely block anyone- only when it gets to this rambling one sided obsessive level
like yourself I bother as I don’t want to waste time checking notification every time they obsessively quote me.
If Baltic states etc hadnt joined NATO theyd already have been Ukrained. Russia wants not just a neutral Ukraine but a vassal Ukraine.
Did you miss Putins speech last week? He wants Ukraine - nothing to do with NATO, that gave it an impetus but is not the origin.
NATO signed no treaty promising not to expand or never accept ex USSR colonies. The responses from leaders and diplomats were valid for the time - when asked in early 90s they werent accepting ex Soviet bloc as it wasnt their strategy at the time.
"In August 1993 Yeltsin, in talks with the Polish leader, Lech Wałęsa, conceded Poland’s right to join Nato, a concession that left his colleagues thunderstruck. More formally Russia did the same with the Nato Russia Founding Act in 1996.'" (Guardian)
Russia did load military equipment to Cuba. The compromise was no nuclear weapons. Such an agreement covering specific weapons could have been agreed covering Ukraine Baltic states Belarus Kalingrad Turkey... had Putin given diplomacy a chance.
Willing stooge or gullible patsy? The latter seems more likely
The did invade us though and haven't left.
Still not on USAs doorstep.
The west promised not to move NATO one inch eastwards,
What's your source on that claim? I'll give you a couple which cast doubt upon it.
https://www.france24.com/en/russia/20220130-did-nato-betray-russia-by-expanding-to-the-east
Russia's claim appears to hinge on an verbal promise made to Gorby by the US SoS in the early 90s, before the USSR officially broke up. Nothing to the same end was put in official writing. Later in the 90s, after the USSR broke up and thus significantly changed the situation in Europe, several former Warsaw Pact countries requested to join NATO. The key thing, there, is to remember that those countries requested to join. Russia talks about NATO the same way Nigel Farage talks about the EU, as a malignant entity swallowing countries whole, completely omitting the fact that these countries actively lobby to join up.
suspend food and medicine to the population of Russia because they are under the control of a dangerous lunatic and his cronies?!
Is that what your saying yeah?
Yep, a very useful feature
We're six days into this. The Russian people, both at home and elsewhere,have done sweet FA...... I couldn't care less how the sanctions affect them now. Their country deserves to rot. Absolute shower of cowardly bullies.
I see we have many new friends who claim to know little about the issues but can still provide detailed responses ignoring an actual invasion, just to provide "an alternative view."
Welcome! But your predecessors used the same tactics and it's as clear as day what's up.
Absolutely spot on.
Yes, they keep referring to it as "the special operation to protect the Donbas". The level of control Putin has over the media is ferocious - anyone who dares criticise him risks having their TV or radio station shut down on the spot.
Unfortunately it does. Along with other controls and Internet usage as detailed by another poster Twitter is heavily restricted in Russia and their answer to Facebook, VK is state controlled.
On mobile you go into edit profile and down the bottom is an option called Ignore List. You just pop in the username then into that.
Yes. I’d have no issue with it whatsoever. That’s war and their government has chosen. Hopefully all covered under the bulk of the sanctions in any case.
I have no idea what Putin really thinks. I am just familiar with the official narrative that I tried to substantiate it with some "facts". If there is a decision to send all Russians home, sure, I will be in Russia or in some other place. I do not support killings of the civilians. I cannot say I support or do not support Putin because I have no enough information on this war. If there is an official document provided by the UN and supported by evidence that says that Russia is intentionally bombing civilians and committing war crimes, I will strongly condemn that.
Did the West condemn NATO for bombing Yugoslavia (which basically means 'did NATO condemn itself')? Probably not, read the Time cover: http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19950911,00.html 'Bringing the Serbs to Hell'. Are there good NATO bombs, and bad Russian ones? The result will be the same - civilian losses.
If NATO bombed Yugoslavia and US bombed many other countries, do not be surprised that someone decided to do just that putting the usual 'genocide'/'special military operation' words around it.
That Thomas burn guy is a dreadful communicator
Is it possible that the Russian forces are not as well trained or equipped as was previously assumed or is this intentionally a hesitant invasion for whatever reason?
What about the millions of Russians who live throughout the west. They know exactly what's happening but apart from a small minority they refuse to condemn putin.
Katyn 2. Coming to a forest near you, if you're Ukrainian.
Just to be clear you are saying starve all the Russian men women and kids and deny them access to medicine because of what putin and his cronies have done.
I’ll ask you again, are you sure about this being what you want?
What do you expect a Russian citizen to do?
Reported Ukranian forces have taken a Russian occupied town in Donetsk.
In hindsight, Russia’s military drills off the Irish coast was a message - and our defensive uselessness has been highlighted for all to see. Finland is also neutral but yet they’ve spent defensively for obvious reasons with Putin as their neighbour. Ireland should at least have modern radar, and a basic emergency fleet to respond to unannounced jets in our airspace / sea space, etc.
I can see a lot of de escalation in the language coming from Jen Psaki in the US and Boris in the U.K. - both stating they don’t want to go to war with Russia today. Just watched Blinken’s speech - disappointing.
A way out of this needs to be found - not sure Putin is taking the ‘peace talks’ seriously although if there were some concessions re separatist regions, it would offer him a way out - time will tell.
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