This whole cancel culture myth

12-01-2022 1:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461158#Comment_118461158

Have you got empirical evidence that racism exists? If not, then I expect you to retract your statement. Holding you to your standard that is.

Billy Mays · 12-01-2022 1:43pm

Worst thing I've seen posted on this thread is someone claiming they find Alex Jones entertaining 😬

ancapailldorcha · 12-01-2022 1:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461229#Comment_118461229

That's the sort of hypocritical response I was expecting. Provide nothing and expect everything. Once you provide your objective proof, I'll provide mine. Go on.

ancapailldorcha · 12-01-2022 1:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461207#Comment_118461207

Standard right wing thought unfortunately.

12-01-2022 1:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461281#Comment_118461281

Can we agree that the "empirical evidence" bar is ridiculous then? We should be able to agree on the basic parameters of discussion hopefully.

12-01-2022 1:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461207#Comment_118461207

Where did I say that? Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm saying there is no scientific evidence that either of them exist as ideas. I'm not equating the two things and saying they are the same.

Apothic_Red · 12-01-2022 1:59pm

OP back.

I suppose what I was getting at is the overuse, or improper use, of the term cancelling.

Someone offers a differing opinion to the hive mind nowadays & you hear that they are cancelled. Then you look into it & their circumstances are completely unaffected. If cancelling is a true weapon it lacks any real sanction in many cases, only gleams noteriety for the perpetrator & ridicule for the easily offended who get hit with the PC/snowflake/woke smeer.

dxhound2005 · 12-01-2022 2:01pm

Hive mind is also a smear. Another version of Sheeple.

ancapailldorcha · 12-01-2022 2:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461381#Comment_118461381

It would be if you hadn't been disingenuous earlier. You can't lie about me and then expect me to take your word as gospel. Since you have provided nothing, I'm dismissing this myth as the nonsense it patently is.

Wibbs · 12-01-2022 2:09pm

By far the biggest problem in my humble is the increasing trend of hardline partisanship on all sides. 'Cancel culture' is but one of the symptoms, as are the 'right', the 'woke', the 'fascists' the 'antifascists' and all that other imported from the US utterly retarded bollocks. It's quite evident on this very thread. A position is taken and held onto for dear fúcking life and blind tit for tat is the result.

In online and increasingly offline discussion - and I use the term loosely - anyone that makes even the slightest concession with the opposing view and tries to meet halfway(god forbid), is either seen as suspicious and/or jumped on as some admission of the guilt the true believer must see in the sinner and/or it's seen as being noncommital even traitorous to the personal cause. So we end up in a world of moronic mouthpieces mindlessly and endlessly screaming bollocks like rape culture, woke, SJW, fascists.

That's if they ever leave their echo chambers of course, which is increasingly rare too. Where the opposing sides do meet you can be damned sure that each side will be convinced that the stage on which they rant is an echo chamber of the other. That's a pretty good litmus of exposure to different ideas, because it's quite clear people flip out when they hear them.

Sonics2k · 12-01-2022 2:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461395#Comment_118461395

You're saying there is no scientific evidence that -racism- exists? Really?

ancapailldorcha · 12-01-2022 2:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461737#Comment_118461737

Yep. Beyond pathetic. When all else fails, deploy whataboutery and false equivalences with a sound helping of both sides.

B.A._Baracus · 12-01-2022 2:41pm

To me ... the meaning of cancel culture is blurred. There's like three different meanings to it (at least I think)

First is digging something up from some celebrity/public figure's old social media, old interview etc and trying to use that to get someone black balled.

Next is celeb/public figure saying something that just divides people - which is too easy to do in this world - and then those who get so offended by it try to use that to get someone black balled (Dave Chapelle comes to mind)

Last is cause and effect. That's not cancel culture. Like say I was a famous actor and I say something mad like "the nazis were right about the jews" on twitter (or whatever) that's my career gone and people turning against me. That's not cancel culture. That's me being dumb and torpedo'ing my career.

12-01-2022 2:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461453#Comment_118461453

You say I "provided nothing" when you asked for "empirical evidence" that cancel culture exists. You basically ask for the impossible and then when I can't oblige you say I've "provided nothing".

Sorry but you are the one who is being disingenuous and we both know it.

Thelonious Monk · 12-01-2022 2:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460969#Comment_118460969

Yeah but I dont think you'll see him on Netflix or SNL any time soon

ohnonotgmail · 12-01-2022 2:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461940#Comment_118461940

what is the difference between the first and second meaning apart from time?

BrianD3 · 12-01-2022 2:54pm

Anytime I hear of something being dragged up from somebody's past, I think of Liam Gallagher's altercation with a photographer in 2001. Has this had any negative impact on him - no. Seems like some people (good looking bad boys?) are uncancellable. Even if they call someone a gay boy's f*ggot's arse kebab dick w*nker who makes Dale Winton's drawers (underpants?) look bad.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P4JAP5Bf_Wo

12-01-2022 2:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461737#Comment_118461737

I was responding to a ridiculous post asking for objective evidence or empirical evidence that cancel culture exists. I was saying that it's not possible to provide a scientific formula for something like this but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I then drew an analogy to racism. There is no scientific objective evidence that racism exists, but I think we can all agree that it does exist, right? Is there something wrong with my logic? Is there scientific evidence that racism exists that I might be missing? If so, can you provide it?

12-01-2022 2:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461782#Comment_118461782

I was using your own logic against you. So what you describe there actually describes your own thought process.

ancapailldorcha · 12-01-2022 2:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462094#Comment_118462094

Nah. It's blatant hypocrisy, let's be honest. Thanks for admitting you have no evidence. Means we can mark this as done.

12-01-2022 3:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461526#Comment_118461526

I agree with all of this. Very well put.

12-01-2022 3:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462120#Comment_118462120

So you might prove you are the bigger person and respond to my request for objective proof that racism exists then. I'll wait.

ancapailldorcha · 12-01-2022 3:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462165#Comment_118462165

Once you provide yours, I'll provide mine. Go on.

12-01-2022 3:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462174#Comment_118462174

I thought we'd agreed that I am an inferior human being and can't provide evidence of cancel culture. I made the point that it still exists even if you can't scientifically prove it. Similar to racism. You can't prove it exists but most reasonable people (like me) are willing to admit that it exists.

For that you conclude I have "provided nothing". I agree by your insane standards I've provided nothing.

Now I ask to hold you to your own standards and prove once and for all your superiority. And you are too scared to take that next step, because you have got nothing. Diddly squat.

ancapailldorcha · 12-01-2022 3:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462205#Comment_118462205

There's mountains of proof that racism exists. I don't provide links to people who continually tell lies about me and back up none of their own claims when asked. I'll respond when you provide something of value instead of yet more baseless deceit but otherwise, I'm done with this.

12-01-2022 3:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462237#Comment_118462237

I've tried multiple times to try and meet you halfway and at least agree on some basic things. But each time I extend an olive branch you refuse it and cite something from a previous post as an excuse. The proof is in the thread. Just read back through it if you want "empirical evidence".

I would say we can agree to disagree, but you won't even agree with that statement probably!

Captain Barnacles · 12-01-2022 4:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118458369#Comment_118458369

Never mind that but they completely LIE about her opinions, they say she wants to KILL transgender people .

BBC, Guardian MSM of course won't say this, but they won't correct it either and will go along with the shunning of her.

Shameful.

Captain Barnacles · 12-01-2022 4:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118459407#Comment_118459407

Stop spreading misinformation.

Trump actually told them to peacefully march to the capital entrance, he specifically asked for non violence.

funny the way youtube removed that video ...

Rothko · 12-01-2022 4:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460124#Comment_118460124

You can't answer the question, can you? Lol

12-01-2022 4:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461265#Comment_118461265

You don't have to like him or agree with him to find him entertaining. I find Joe Biden entertaining in a car crash kind of way.

This whole cancel culture myth

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