This question goes out those who took the 2 jabs? Will you you take it to get back to normality? Or are you sick of the government moving the goalposts constantly?
It looks like the guy has now taken the "I'll just stop replying because I'm not man enough to admit my mistake" approach, so no more hopefully.
Don't forget about the report button if you think our pedantic tangent was too much!
How many more pages of this tit for tat bullshit am I going to have to scroll through?
You are contributing greatly to the boredom unfortunately.
Ignoring my questions when you can't answer them again.
Too bad I'm unconscious in the car and, you know, on fire.
But if your unconscious then your not going to performing a Houdini escape, seat belt or not.
Clearly, you hadn't considered the possibility that someone could rescue you when you made this response which, as you say, was not a joke response.
It's a very strange thing that you didn't consider that, specifically as an engineer, but it's even stranger that, dozens of posts later, you're still trying to make out that you didn't make such a mistake.
As you said, we are both on the same side, and everyone makes mistakes, so why not just admit that you messed up so that we can return to the topic at hand?
Someone earlier pointed out that I didn't make it clear that I was talking hypothetically in a particular post, and I admitted straight away that they were right and that I should have made it clearer. It was my mistake, no big deal.
Lets summarise our boring debate; the readers are well aware that you AND I both agree that seat belts can kill. My comments to the contrary only resulted in a stifling of the debate (by your obsession) despite my admittance to your analysis being correct.
Yet you want something more from me. You want my blood on a plate. I can’t give you that, I’m sorry. So your conclusion is that I’m not worthy of a seat in your echo chamber. Cool.
Honestly, car on fire, unconscious. Rescue team ain’t getting there quick enough. Let’s hope you’re in a built up area with a hero among us.
Eh, what? The last sentence is quite clearly what I was referring to. I do not mean that police arrive and pull you out alive ten minutes after you've been on fire. Another odd statement on your behalf, and one I don't think you can claim is a joke this time.
So, you're admitting then that if you're car is on fire and you're unconscious, the best chance of survival that you could think of at the time was to somehow Houdini your way out rather than be rescued by someone nearby. A very interesting thought process for an engineer.
Have you ever been in an engineering design meeting? Do you write down every mis-quote from your peers and try to steer the conversation back to that? Do you therefore try to stifle debate? Or, do you try to look around the room and listen to peoples’ core message to try to find the way forward?
No, I instead respond to questions with answers rather than jokes. Or I admit that my stance is wrong, rather than backtrack, so we can move on.
Do you act differently in real life vs. an Internet forum? Bravery.
No, I call out falsehoods in both situations, and I call out people who try to hide from their falsehoods in both situations also.
Have you ever been in an engineering design meeting? Do you write down every mis-quote from your peers and try to steer the conversation back to that? Do you therefore try to stifle debate?
Or, do you try to look around the room and listen to peoples’ core message to try to find the way forward?
Probably the second best one there is.
So, for example, your third comment is not a joke and therefore you're acknowledging that you hadn't considered rescue teams until after I mentioned it? Otherwise, what is the purpose of this comment? If you're unconscious and the car is on fire, and if this is a serious comment, what does it highlight exactly? It seems to me that you thought the only possibility to escape in that situation was to "Houdini" your way out, and not be rescued by others, which is odd.
Anyway, you're either 1) making a lot of silly statements, 2) replying to my questions with jokes, or 3) a combination of the above. In any case, you're not giving me any good reasons to have a conversation with you.
Great advert for boosters: “it won’t kill you”
First comment: I left out the word negligible. And I did a following risk assessment of how they weren’t comparable.
Second comment: was a joke, I couldn’t resist the Dougal Maguire big red button imagery.
Third comment: I was responding to your scenario of the unconscious person. Then you threw in there in afterwards about rescue teams etc. (changing factors)
And you lived to tell the tale.
And how exactly are we supposed to tell that statements like "Of course I would wear a seat belt, there’s no downside. Bad analogy.", "Hey man, there’s a big red button that releases the catch." and "if your unconscious then your not going to performing a Houdini escape, seat belt or not." are jokes?
Because it seems more likely that you didn't think they weren't jokes when you said them, and are instead now claiming they they were jokes to save face now that you've realised those statements are quite silly for someone to say.
The “You are right” statement was an admission that you are right about seat belts.
I think there is a point in having a conversation with me because I am a turn-coat pro vaxxer, trained as an engineer, that is questioning to efficacy of the booster programme for low risk groups. I occasionally make smart arse remarks and jokes that aren’t intended to offend.
The entirety of my post contained only questions.
So you're "you are right" statement is just another quip? Or is it perhaps sarcasm this time?
Is there any point in anyone having a conversation with you if it's impossible to tell if what you're saying is what you believe or completely the opposite?
You believe you answered these questions? And calling me dour is what, another quip I guess that you don't really mean?
It's being spammed to all threads, ironic that Britain did get a lot wrong (author obviously doesn't count NI in their calculations) but not for the reasons outlined.
I can’t see any question I left unanswered but if you think I attacked you then I apologise.
So, no response to my questions, only personal attacks?
You are free to create a thread in the engineering forum about your area and I will respond in kind, I would feel too guilty if I was the only to read about it via PM.
I already resigned and cancelled myself and it’s still not enough blood.
Really, man, dour is too accurate for you.
You know that I know all about the points you were trying to enlighten me about the dreaded seat belt.
PM me. Let’s talk engineering. I’m not a looney.
The man asked if the booster programme is the way forward, and you posted a link to an article in which the the word booster is not used once?
Paolo
just say you “misspoke”. That is fine for Aristotle.
Sorry, man, I can’t admit I was wrong when I know in my heart of hearts that I fully understand the limitations of the 3-point seatbelt. And that you’re a bit dour.
Eddie thinks the vaccine prevents the recipient from getting Covid. There is no vaccine for that type of thinking.
Did you really expect a full multi factorial analysis on the causes of deaths in motor vehicle accidents?
No, I expect an adult to admit they were wrong and then to continue to expand on their argument regardless with their other valid points, rather than weakening their argument by backtracking and only admitting their mistake once it is dragged out of them.
Hey, I got my booster :D
Another one.
I won't be getting the booster as I got covid 2 weeks ago. Yes I was double vaccinated, no I wasn't boosted. A hell of a lot of people who had the booster got omicron, therefore it doesn't seem to offer protection. Degree of illness is very mild with this version of covid. Bring on herd immunity.
Come on, man.
“I’m trapped”. “Hit the big red release button”.
YOU ARE RIGHT. Are you happy?