Where are you supposed to find pcr testing centres?
The likelihood of having a new covid infection 6 or 7 weeks after having one is zero
I'm going to the UK by ferry tomorrow, back on Tuesday. I have an antigen test booked in North Wales on Monday, I hope that's right, within 48 hours of returning not prior to 48 hours as the stena line website said.
Now if I tested positive on Monday, there is absolutely nothing except my own moral compass to stop me changing my ferry ticket and going into Northern Ireland, no test needed and drive down. That's what I have have issue with, the stupidity of that situation.
I know one those top civil servants. An AP (I think) in Justice. Sound lad. Thinks Tony and the like have lost the run of themselves.
Has the commission accepted Ireland's request of an emergency break to the COVID pass rules set out?
I haven't heard anything about this, has anybody put in a FOI request or inquiry to the EU commission?
I have a feeling it is going to be absolute chaos when thousands of EU citizens get refused boarding this weekend when they are in possession of a EU digital covid cert!!
When travelling, the EU Digital COVID Certificate holder should in principle be exempt from free movement restrictions: Member States should refrain from imposing additional travel restrictions on the holders of an EU Digital COVID Certificate, unless they are necessary and proportionate to safeguard public health.
In such a case – for instance as a reaction to new variants of concern – that Member State would have to notify the Commission and all other Member States and justify this decision
You misunderstand my post, my point was he’s saying he’s got a 6 month travel pass! But thanks for telling me something I already know, Twas very helpful 👍
Thanks very much, I’ll have a read and let him know. Saw him tonight there and he’s said his firm can’t book him a PCR but even then I said you’re vaccinated and recovered so it’s an antigen sure. 👍
Yep you’re bang on, thanks very much, top man. Have let him know.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_to_ireland/travel_to_ireland_during_covid.html
and meanwhile leaving an open door into the UK. We really are idiots sometimes.
Ireland doesn't need the permission of the Commission or anyone for that matter to put in place additional restrictions.
It is a restriction on freedom of movement.
Which is permitted under Article 11 of the Covid cert Regulation. Portugal have implemented the same requirement.
We need to inform the commission and all member states and justify our reasoning.
I wonder have we done this. There will be chaos come Friday and the weekend, huge amounts of flights come into Ireland and this is total against the norm for EU travel for the last 6 months.
The Commission can still question the justification. Especially if the variant of concern is less concerning.
The Commission triggered the emergency brake mechanism for certain African countries themselves over concern of the new variant so they're in no position to say that it's actually not that concerning. Either way they can question all they want, can't stop it.
The wording in the Regulation is to inform the commission "if possible". Anyway the new requirements are on the Commissions "ReopenEU" website so it's clear Ireland has informed them.
Big difference between stopping it from what they believed was the source and stopping it from countries it hasn't been identified in though. Commission could probably overrule it if they wanted as it actually is against EU rules on free movement.
It will be interesting to see if Ryanair staff monitor the documentation. I think at this stage MOL will just ignore it and leave it to the authorities in Ireland to oversee their gobbledygook rules
Friday will be chaos regardless!!
Portugal have implemented the same requirement from today. Haven't seen any reports of chaos in Portugal.
They can't because it's clearly set out in the Regulation that member states can add additional restrictions. It even says that on their own ReopenEU website:
Despite the European Digital COVID Certificate, each country continues to be responsible for the definition of its own entry requirements and rules, which are not standardised at the EU level. This means that what is required to enter upon presentation of this certificate, depends on the measures and entry rules in place at your destination.
Was there chaos in Portugal today as they implemented their requirements for tests since midnight?
It also says
In such a case – for instance as a reaction to new variants of concern – that Member State would have to notify the Commission and all other Member States and justify this decision.
So we need to do that second part and it to be accepted.
Where does it say it "has to be accepted" in the Regulation? The new requirements are now published on the Commissions ReopenEU website.
Well I'd assume justify means it has to. Like why ask to justify it if it can't be denied.
Also, this was Monday in response to Portugal
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2021/11/29/portugal-has-re-imposed-covid-19-travel-restrictions-could-other-eu-nations-do-the-same
In principle, member states should refrain from imposing additional travel restrictions on holders of the EU digital COVID certificate, in particular on holders of vaccination and recovery certificates," said a European Commission spokesperson on Monday afternoon.
"They should inform the Commission and other member states 48 hours in advance in case they intend to introduce any new restrictions,"
The spokesperson later confirmed to Euronews that Portugal had notified the executive about its plans on Monday morning and officials were still analysing the request to determine its legality
Pcr test seem to cost well over a hundred euro here, but 70Pound in the UK.
And the times are woeful here.
The airport goes from 9-5pm FFS.
I think it's safer to get tested here.
Ah they're cheaper than that in both countries. Paid 70 quid here for my one with results in 4hrs. Randox is 50 odd I think
It doesn't say anything like that in the Regulation at all. See Article 11. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021R0953
Cheapest I found was 130 euro!
Did you do it recently?
Will check that one.
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