Wise decision. We are in a dangerous place now with this new variant and cases are not going down in general in Europe. Going to be a rough few months incoming.
I’m going to London next Wednesday for a night, my parents have just gotten the boosters so I’m reasonably comfortable with going. Of course the only reason I’m still stuck living at home is because of fucked up government policy going back decades, but that’s for another thread…
So now I have to get to the airport an hour earlier to pay €35 for an antigen test (I’m doubly vaccinated)- if negative, this will not stop me heading off to London, will not stop me picking it up over there, and will not stop me bringing it back. The only thing that will happen is that I am down €35. Bualadh bos for Mícheal and the boys, another brilliant policy decision.
Quite a bit of hassle to travel to the USA now. Cost, Testing and form filling is quite a lot with the prospect of more hassle on the return. Clearing USA boarder checks in DUB was very plain sailing/ breezed through, they have put all responsibility on the airlines in terms of passes etc
Only 43 people in the entire country of Ireland, over the last 2 years, aged 35-44 have died of corona as of November 23rd. What are the odds you personally know almost 10% of the country's covid casualties in that age demographic I wonder...
The median age of death from covid in Ireland is 82. Life expectancy in Ireland, even before corona, was 82. Our healthcare system does not have unlimited resources - at some stage questions have to be asked about devoting tens of billions of euros to covid measures, when far larger numbers of far younger people are dying of things like cancer that aren't being prioritized.
Did I say I personally knew them and that I was talking solely about Ireland?Read before you type.
cant tell if you’re taking the proverbial!
anyway, luckily she is being ignored. She’s just playing politics knowing it will never happen
Your either a politician or a wind up,which is it?
Much like this poster, I received a positive result last Friday. Heading to Manchester next Wednesday, will I still need a test, and in the likely result I still test positive what happens then?
So if you're 'recovered' an antigen test is ok?
Yes, I've since researched and the below is from the gov website, you will need to do an antigen or PCR, if you're positive, only then will they rely on your original proof that your safe after 10 days.
Utter farce
situations where a person is required to present evidence of a negative ('not detected') RT-PCR test result prior to travel, and is unable to do so due to a persistently positive RT-PCR test after recovery, then a positive RT-PCR test result will be acceptable which was taken no less than 11 days and no more than 180 days prior to arrival to the State.
if you test positive again, I guess you simply won’t be allowed on the plane. What other way could it be.
Not correct,
They will look for your original positive test proving it was over 10 days ago
am I missing something here. How is a positive RT-PCR test result = acceptable.
acceptable for what?
A positive PCR test if at least 11 days old, and no older than 180 days old is valid for entering Ireland.
Only if you also are positive on a test more recently.
Or simply put,
You can rely on the fact if you test positive over 11 days ago, you are no longer a threat, but you may still fail a test.
Here is where the stupidity comes in, you cannot use this as proof, until you show.that you test positive still on an antigen or PCR within 48 hours
Ah Christ, I give up. 😎🤣😜
I'm getting a train from France to Luxembourg for a flight home, there's no time for a test in Luxembourg, they're gonna be fecking take the French one
So Canada **** the bed as well and puts in a test for when we land as well, this goes along with the test we need before we leave.
What in the name of god are they at? Why bother with the vaccines if we have to test all over the shop for when we travel?
My blood is boiling
That’ll be grand, the test can be from anywhere.
A good bit less cost though, €29 versus €69 with GoSafe.
24 hours hotel isolation with Nathan Carter playing on a loop.
It's going to get a lot worse it seems.
Biden is essentially looking to close the USA again after just a month open.
Hopefully these measures don't get passed until next week at the earliest. I definitely made the right decision moving my trip back from January to Saturday - at least I have a chance. USA going to be out of bounds for a few months I expect.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/30/omicron-stricter-travel-rules-us-entry/
any idea how to prove you were positive? Obviously have the HSE text confirming it but I doubt they’d take that
You can request a covid recovery cert after 11 days, I don't know if this is what they are looking for as it is as clear as mud, but this is probably the best you can get
https://www.covidcertificateportal.gov.ie/en-US/issue-recovery-cert/
Yup, if we're going to freak out about that much deaths, we'd be banning everyone from driving.
With all due respect, please get a sense of perspective
I don't like these restrictions
But if omicron doubles cases it will double hospital numbers unless there's sufficient numbers boosted
That will over run hospitals even if 90% only ever have a cold from it
Over run your hospitals and you are in trouble if you are dependent on the public system for any non covid illness that should have you in hospital
It is serious versus the inconvenience of antigen tests masks etc
If people don't get that,think again
If you still don't get it,most people do thankfully
We will know in a few weeks if omicron can cause these problems
Initial signs are that it can
In which case acting early saves things being worse later
you have to get the test in the country you’re returning from I’m afraid.
This has not been 100% clarified.
Darragh O'Brien said it's possible to get tested in Ireland before you fly, travel abroad and return to Ireland with negative antigen test on arrival.
Makes no sense but nowhere is it confirmed travellers will have to get the test in the country they're returning from unless I missed something.
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Initial signs aren't saying hospitals are going to be overrun or anything else as of yet ,so a bit of perspective on your behalf is needed also
Interesting article overall on Omicron from a country that is well advanced with high vaccine/booster penetration. But this quote caught my eye:
'Two cardiologists from Sheba Medical Center were verified as infected with the Omicron variant, a spokesperson for the hospital confirmed. He said they were experiencing “very light symptoms.”
One of the doctors, in his 50s, brought the variant into Israel upon returning from a medical conference in London. He tested negative when he boarded the airplane from the United Kingdom to Israel and on arrival, but a few days later began experiencing symptoms.
Once he tested positive, his results were sequenced and on Tuesday he was confirmed positive for the variant.'
Goes to show that pre-departure/post-arrival testing is not a a particularly effective measure against importing the virus from other geographies. The important point is that vaccines do work in preventing serious illnesses 'Pfizer vaccine is just slightly less effective in preventing infection with Omicron than with Delta – 90% as opposed to 95% – while it is as effective – around 93% – in preventing serious symptoms at least for those vaccinated with a booster' (source: same article)
my 2 cents:
I also got the vaccine primarily for traveling without hassles/costs. It is a pain to have to get the booster and it is a sign that these vaccines are not the panacea we were led to believe a year ago. But without doubt, beats having more draconian travel restrictions like we had Jan-July this year (fines, hotel quarantine, news crews chasing tourists at airports).
I got 2 inoculations of the Pfizer super juice, I dont see the logic in not getting a third one honestly. Also because, where I travel to (mainly Italy/Spain) you'll need proof of it to do pretty much anything social while you're there (restaurants, public transport, coffee shops, amusement parks, cinemas)!
What I'll likely do is time my booster so that it'll cover me for mid-term/Easter and summer holidays. If it becomes a once per year affair, I can live that.
I really can't understand this nonsense. I've no issue following sensible restrictions but this kind of stuff is comical. I'm really getting fed up at this stage with all this.
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