The way to stop transmission is actually widespread testing & tracing, including antigen tests. Vaccinated people continue to get infected with & spread Covid. The cert in Ireland isn’t helping stop spread - it’s just trying to coerce people to get vaccinated. I wasn’t against the vaccination programme & am vaccinated. I am completely against forced boosters & disabled Certs like France have just announced.
President of Bayer's pharmaceutical division would disagree..
The cert in Ireland isn’t helping stop spread
untrue
unvaccinated people carry the load required for community contamination for a lot longer than vaccinated people.
vaccinated people are 63% LESS LIKELY to spread the delta variant than unvaccinated, at high level household contact. *
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.14.21264959v1
therefore having vaccinated people in an enclosed space together are significantly less likely to spread covid than having unvaccinated people together
if you dont understand this simple logic then theres no helping you
Eh, that's more an example of misrepresenting. His point was that faith in the scientific and medical community has increased during the pandemic. This is because of the fact the likes of the vaccine were highly effective, high tech treatments also proved to be pretty successful ways of treating those with covid.
So CQD, the claim it's a form of gene therapy is like the 5g nonsense.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene-idUSL1N2PH16N
But again, you're link dumping to bitchute rather than giving a direct quote from a legitimate source.
Have you already forgotten what happened the last time you did this?
It turned out that what you were claiming wasn't actually true because you didn't do any fact checking. You don't do fact checking because you believe everything you're told and you aren't able to do any critical thinking. You are very easily lead.
And no, claiming the vaccines are "gene therapy" is an outright lie.
You guys lie a lot.
Why do you do this? Honestly man, why?
The mRNA chains from the vaccines only last for a couple of days before they break down and the residue are swept away by the body's normal waste disposal system.
The mRNA chains teach our cells how to look for and fight against covid
its looks like CQD doesnt understand how vaccines work. not surprising really.
the FDA in America officially classes mRNA vaccines as "vaccines" and not "gene therapy" which is a different kettle of fish altogether.
covid mRNA vaccines do not enter the cell nucleus therefore have no ability to alter genes.
Sorry but there’s been numerous studies to counter that stating the peak viral load for vaccinated & unvaccinated is similar, perhaps the duration is shorter in the vaccinated. It will still spread, especially indoors. Again the Certs do not reduce spread.
Pfizer CEO calling it gene editing..
So @[Deleted User] has looped back around to gene therapy. Seriously, what restrictions are permanent?
Here is the first comment on that bitchute article ...
"Let's stop pretending cvd19 is real. Get angry and fight back! And it is NOT a vaccine and we must STOP calling it that because cvd19 DOES NOT EXIST. Everybody must know by now that NONE of this worldwide global government tyranny is about a real virus"
Does this reflect your opinion too?
Again, link dumping to bitchute because even after you've been proved wrong, you're still trying.
It's sad man. You're lying to defend a claim you know is false.
Why are you doing that?
Distract - lie - dodge - run away. Over and over and over again.
All so they can pretend to know secret rebel knowledge and play at being a researcher.
again, you dont understand what you are reading....
yes the peak viral load is the same between vaccinated and unvaccinated, however the unvaccinated stay at that peak level for a lot longer, and therefore are more transmissible, than unvaccinated people.
it literally says it here in one of the bullet points:
The elimination of the Delta strain of the virus takes place more quickly in vaccinated individuals.
are you incapable of drawing the straight line between this point and difference in the the ability of vaccinated to unvaccinated when it comes to transmission?
Back in the day such posters would be known as bullshit artists.
Did you actually listen to what he said?
stop reading bitchute, its full of lies!!!!
He knows that, but it’s the only place that backs up his own lies.
Cool so ignoring all the posts that explain why it's not gene therapy?
sure they didn't stay - but they evolved into bigger and greater things.
we now have mandatory vaccines - by proxy of course - cos it wouldn't be polite to actually force them on people so we will ostracise them instead.
pretty much exclude them from Christmas (which is huge in Ireland) ,in the public sense, for no other basis than punishment because at 90% plus vaccination the population is fully vaccinated by any reasonable scientific measure.
But as we've seen in the past 20months, Irelands political and media class love a good scapegoat to cast eyes away from their failures.
we also have a government refusing to give up their "emergency " powers and now are trying to carry them on even further , sunset clause me hole.
vaccine passports and exclusion of objectors from society , what a result - the pinnacle of state control . Anybody who said this even a year ago would have been called insane but here we are.
Cheered on by the masses who either live in fear (thanks RTE!) of a mostly benign illness or those that will do anything ( anything at all) the state says to get their lives back. Don't want the vaccine but will take it for pints - the most pathetic reason of them all.
I hope you are all right..
Watch now how he claims with no evidence that Reuters is in fact totally unreliable, but the site that lets randos post complete bullshit with no filter and can't even spell the title of their own posts correctly is the real source.
If he genuinely believes that, he isn't capable of being reasoned with as that's bordering on delusion.
But I suspect he isn't that dumb and knows full well that it's all bullshit.
Vaccinated people are less likely to get it, less likely to have severe Covid, and less likely to transmit it. It's a no brainer
Do you believe measures will be permanent, if so, which ones and why? Likewise, is there a conspiracy, what is it?
No you don't. You just cling to whatever conspiracy crap comes along and ignore facts/reason/logic. It's a deliberate choice you consistently make. Hope isn't any part of that equation.
Again, the studies show vaccinated people are still spreading Covid, and will continue to spread it in indoor settings. That’s the fact of the matter. Some studies suggest unvaccinated may spread it for longer periods, but vaccinated are still spreading it & getting infected with it. Covid Certs will not reduce this spread in their current form.
Vaccines are not mandatory, no one is forced to take them.
There are no such thing as "vaccine objectors", these people are simply morons. Likewise, there are people who refuse to wear seatbelts, or refuse to wear helmets on motorcycles, etc. Certain people are too ignorant to understand basic risk, so rules have to be made to protect them from themselves and the rest of society for them. Many just seem to hold views contrary to prevailing wisdom out of spite.
If there was a new infectious virus tomorrow with a 50% mortality rate, there would still be anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers and anti-lockdown types
do you not understand the difference in durations of spread between vaccinated and unvaccinated people? why do you keep ignoring it?
Yes..I do..I hope to god I'm wrong..
But this whole thing just reeks of creeping totalitarianism, a big part of which is turning half the population on the other half..
I hope to God I'm wrong..
Yes, vaccinated people still spread Covid, but at a lower rate than unvaccinated people. Unvaccinated people take up proportionally far more hospital resources than vaccinated people.
No one is claiming otherwise. Measures are there to reduce the spread of Covid.
sweet jesus but the level of ignorance here is astounding.
no one, i repeat no one, ever claimed the vaccine would stop the spread of covid.... if it did stop the spread covid would be a thing of distant past by now.
the vaccine reduces the rate of spread of covid and its reduces the health risks if you catch covid.
so if you cannot understand why not allowing people into spaces who are MORE likely to spread covid if they have it .. and MORE likely to get seriously ill if they catch it... then there is simply no helping you.
its plainly obvious and logical
half the population ???
LOL
you are part of a small minority.
a selfish and ignorant small minority... but small thank god.
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