Would I be correct in assuming that masks and social distancing will be gone from school as of next Friday too under current plans?
They only go back 24 hours before the test if the person hasn't had any symptoms. It's 48 hours before symptoms started though if the person had symptoms.
In my daughters case the school told us that she had been a close contact and we arranged a test for her then, by the time the contact tracers phoned me it was day 8 since she had been a close contact....so someone could be classed as a close contact but then not get tested until days later....and their close contacts are counted from when they got the test, not when they were told they were a CC, so the parent may well have isolated in the 24 hours before the test.
Personally I wouldn't have sent my child to school either, but the parent may not be doing anything wrong 'technically'.
All I actually know is that it is a gigantic pain in the a$$ to manage when you have a couple of prinary age kids.
I’m so confused and there’s a long winter there yet 😳😳
Absolutely, I am one myself.My own instinct is keep them all at home for the duration, infact we are currently awauting a test result and mine are all in (even though I think my husband and I can go out as we are vaccinated and well) .But even now I am aware of one family where a small child brought in covid, they all isolated, mam caught it end of week one, original child could back to preschool end of week 2, sister also caught it end of week 2, so another week at home while child 1 is back at school, yet child 2 missed 2 weeks of school unnecessarily before actually catching it....it is all very unclear tbh.Child 2 could have gone back at 10 days in with a negative PCR, but the mam caught it so...she had to stay home longer....yet child 1 was able to go back within that time frame once his symptoms cleared and he had a negative test.
Child isn’t vaccinated …. But you know I think the waters are so muddied by confusing govt messages regarding primary aged children that the parents may not realise they are doing wrong.
ive heard people say several times that the rules don’t apply to primary kids. people are genuinely confused.
Possibly but they wouldn’t have been in the 48hr before the test…so in my head if it was my house the unvaccinated child would be off school…. I’m going to forget I was told it and mind my own beeswax…
Yeah agreed if it’s a close contact situation the siblings are free to go to school once the close contact is symptom free.
in the case I was describing my son had a cough wasn’t a close contact so was sent for a test therefore his unvaccinated sister had to restrict movements too. Different scenarios
I admit I would never do that either -but do they have symptoms and does the advice say they can all go about their business if there is no symptoms in a vaccinated person??
Repeating that I would absolutely never do that myself tbh.
Could the parent be isolating in their room?
I realized today that an (unvaccinated) child in school has been attending school while a parent at home has Covid, I just can’t believe someone would do that.
No they don't. They would only have had to restrict movements if the close contact developed symptoms.
My daughter was a close contact in September and had to restrict movements but the information from the school and HSE did not say that people who lived in the house had to restrict movements.
I kept her older sibling out of secondary school until we got the test result but I wasn't obliged to.
The HSE website has the following information :If you live with someone who is restricting their movements, you do not need to restrict your movements as long as they do not have any symptoms of COVID-19.
and the information from the HSE and department of education has the following information:
Q: Can family members of a pupil/student/staff member (who has been identified as a close contact) attend school?
A: Yes, as long as the family members have not also been designated close contacts by HSE Public Health. Only the pupil/student/staff member who is a close contact needs to restrict her/his movements, even though she/he has no symptoms. However, no other family member is required to do so and can still attend school – unless also identified as a close contact by HSE Public Health. If however, the pupil/student/staff member who is a close contact develops symptoms of Covid-19, then they are a suspected case of Covid-19 and should now self-isolate and contact their GP, explaining that they have been identified as a close contact of a confirmed case of Covid-19 and that they now have symptoms too.
Had that child been caught breathing on them before and how old was the 'child' ?
I must admit it sounds harsh to suspend a child for that. Some children in our school are serially disruptive but never get suspended.
we suspended a child in our school for breathing on them. rightly so.
Oh crap my 11yr old just told me she got the one in her room to go red today..
Yeah I just looked it up as I’m in the same situation. One with a temp and upset tummy for a day and it passed, but had her tested and I’m at home with three perfectly well children as the school goers can’t go in until the result. I antigen tested her and it was negative but it was the temperature that gave me the heebeejeebies, I know a few kids who got it recently and only had a temp. I am a SAHM but I have great sympathy for working parents, it must be a nightmare right now because kids are getting everything going
It also somehow brings a degree of reality and common sense to over-zealous H&S efforts being imposed in an effort to "manage" covid.
^^ That's what I'm thinking. You can only laugh.
After all the consternation about them, of course the kids were going to mess with them.
What can you do except laugh.🤣They were a silly idea to start with.Clearly dreamed up by people who never entered schools once they finished!
And first years trying to fart on them to see if they can turn red.
sO funny .., I know I shouldn’t laugh but.. 😂
C02 monitors removed from a secondary school in the locality as the students were constantly blowing into them, between classes, so the monitor would go red and they'd have to leave class 😊😊
Oh ya I'm aware of that, I was just referring to secondary.
Most of these things don't exist in primary school. Masks and open windows is about the extent of it. Desks are washed and cleaned at the end of the day. But during the day things continue as they always have. I'd love mask wearing to be optional at this point.
More than masks would need to go. Sanatising desks after every class/ staggered breaks/ base classrooms/ return of lockers/ windows open all day/ classroom doors open/ full capacity classes/ removal of social distancing etc.
100%
Nah, it won't be as costly as you imagine. There's all that PUP and other payments to claw tax in from plus the non-PUP rate is at about 6.5%.
They are scaling back as we are starting to hit a financial crisis again. The Covid cost was massive and some may say a bit OTT.
Covid is now not as serious as it was before, hence the reopening program is always fully there.
I'd imagine the decrease was largely thanks to isolating and testing asymptomatic kids. Having 10,000+ pupils out wasn't necessarily the right approach, but I'd argue did curtail outbreaks. Again, I imagine outbreaks will bounce right back up now, but now we won't know as we're not looking anymore.
I just don't understand why there wasn't a middle ground, if you're going to scale back on the testing, invest in the HEPA filters, it's a fraction of the cost that has been spent on testing since schools returned, and would have given anxious parents like me a huge sense of relief. They're just better for kids health and concentration anyway.
Now if we could just end the mask requirement in secondary schools, education would be largely back to normal.
