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It's mad that Mayo only have 3 All Irelands. Limerick at least won 7 before they became the butt of all jokes in the hurling.
And Wexford have 5 it seems, Tipp and Kildare the only ones on 4
Both County's hurling panels must have just imagined their participation in the Nicky Rackard Cup this year.
I've been called lots of things in life and online EA but being called a Dub is a strange one. You must be confusing me with another poster.
Indeed. What commitment to sport in the county's involved. When they lift Sam in 2 weeks time, to win their '4th' all Ireland out of the 260 odd all Ireland championships held by the GAA, it'll be a gigantic achievement we can all celebrate
Posted the above 16 days ago. Nothing has changed for ya Strumms. There will come a point where you just have to get over it cos you'll likely never be more wrong on anything again.
Seething that Dublin arent in the final is it?
I've rarely read such rubbish in my life. "They have a very mixed record on GAA"? If they did, why do they offer it? Why would they offer something they weren't making money on?
Theyve nailed the handicap on multiple recent all Ireland finals. 2020 final, 5pt handicap, lands 5. 2018, 6pt handicap. Lands 6. 2017 hurling, 3 PTS, lands 3. That is exceptionally hard to get right yet it's done consistently
Kerry were 4/5 favourites for the 1997 AI.
"Many peoples favourites in 2006". They weren't actually, Mayo were 4/1 outsiders.
"Kerry slight favourites in 2004". Eh Kerry were 1/6 favourites in 2014 final. You do realise mayo had drawn with Fermanagh in the semi final?
Stay away from the gambling mate I'd say
Mea culpa! I think I must have pronounced your username as 'Dubman' 🙈
I expect Mayo to win. There will be an element of good fortune about the win. Clarke's retirement and Cillian O'Connor's injury has meant that the two biggest chokers in Croke Park on their team where missing this year, which led to a great improvement and steadiness about them. Hennelly nailing those frees/45s in comparison to both Clarke kicking the ball out over the sideline and O'Connor missing crucial frees is the best example of that.
Where Horan has done well is in limiting the usage of O'Shea. His ego has always been bigger than his ability and has distracted from the team. Look at the way he came back on the field for the skirmish (should be banned for that, but that's another story). If Horan similarly limits O'Shea in the final, then I think Mayo can finally do it.
Dubman88
Wouldnt class rank outsiders losing by a point as chokers personally. If they were raging hot favourites, got bullied by a gang of kids and lost the head, and the match, then you might have a case...
You are entitled to your opinion. I set out my opinion and the clear evidence in favour of my opinion in my post. It certainly appears to me that Mayo are a better team this year and that the absences of Clarke and O'Connor have contributed to that, as well as the less usage of Aidan O'Shea. Clarke lost an All-Ireland by kicking the ball out over the sideline and handing possession to Dublin. O'Connor has missed more than one clutch free.
Good luck to Mayo in the final, and may the best team win.
Jayus that is good one. That should get a few yerrah's out of Dobman88.
If it any consolation to Kerrymen. I had an English teacher who used to constantly remind us Dubs.
'Sure, yer main street is named after a Kerryman!'
Tomás Ó Sé would agree with ya he was disgusted at Kerry's level of workrate, he pulled no punches. He didn't sound as annoyed as when Cork beat Kerry last year. But it was getting there.
Are you seeing the o as a u also 😂😂
I don't think there was anything wrong with Kerry's workrate. They were dominating midfield in the first half especially. Including breaking ball which is the best measure of workrate. Foley and Tom O'Sullivan had some great turnovers on Tyrone forwards as well.
The issue for Kerry was being too anxious to score goals in some cases, and butchering guilt edge chances on at least one occasion. There were a few mistakes leading to Tyrone goals but I wouldn't put that down to lack of workrate.
Fair points to make but no mayo player is immune to mistakes, hennelly in 2013 final with brogans goal and again in 2016 replay with Keegan black card and penalty given away. That's the difference, winners mistakes are soon forgotten
I'm starting to love your hatred at this stage.
I'm probably well off the mark here but my second thought was that you were 'Dob' man as in breed Dobermanns!
Firstly, did you miss the part where I said Dublin's 6 in a row aside? fail from you.
Secondly there are more than enough examples of the bookies getting it wrong, far more than you mention.
Thirdly, I never mentioned hurling - second fail from you.
We can go through a few if you want? How about 2014?
Jim McGuinness can't find fault with odds-on Dublin - Independent.ie
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Jim McGuinness has admitted that bookmakers have got it right by setting odds of 1/10 on a Dublin victory in Sunday's second All-Ireland football semi-final.
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Kerry were at 1/6 to beat Tyrone in 2021.
And numerous others if I could be bothered to look them up but maybe you can help?
Who was favourites to win AI finals in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011 and various semi finals involving Dublin v Kerry in the 2000s. Off you go with your homework!
I'll give you a helping hand with the 2011 final!
20 questions for Dublin v Kerry - Independent.ie
Kerry are 8/11 favourites, with Dublin 6/4
Cillian O'Connor a choker? I've heard it all now! Clarke was considered the best shot stopper of the last 10 years and won many a game for Mayo including in Croke Park.
Clarke kicked the ball out over the sideline, handing possession to Dublin, and lost an All-Ireland for Mayo. In the key moment, he choked.
As for Cillian O'Connor and his penchant for failure in the clutch moments, there are whole articles written about it:
This is the key point: "Dean Rock encountered no such cruelty when he was presented with a similar opportunity, as he glided his free over the bar to secure a one-point win." Over those few years, Dean Rock scored the crucial points, O'Connor missed them.
To me, there is a clear link between the absences of Clarke and O'Connor as well as the limited use of O'Shea to Mayo beating a Dublin team coming off its peak. If it was O'Connor with that last 45 rather than Hennelly, it would have been missed.
Was that the time, 6 Dublin forwards dragged 6 Mayo defenders to the ground, leaving Clarke with no options? After a Dublin player had kicked away his tee. Imagine the outrage if someone did the same to Cluxton!
Should have threw gps trackers at them instead. Much more wholesome.
Keegans cynicism was big news. Dublins cynicism which was just as bad barely got a mention! Although I'm sure you'll find something somewhere!
When one player does something wrong, its huge. When 6 players are cynical at the same time, its hardly noticed!
Barely got a mention? 😂 That’s quite a selective memory you have there, it was cried about for weeks no matter what you read or listened to.
Both instances were wrong and both were called out as wrong, trying to paint a picture that isn’t there is pointless really. Enjoy what’s upcoming and finally stop playing the victim.
Some mayo fans would probably have everyone believe it was a self propelled gps... such is their investment in ' disneytime' versions of events ;)
What's a "clutch" moment ?
Is it when you are changing gears
No I'm hoping the final is good.
But I'm not deluded and the numbers suggest Dublin in it's current form will dominate the GAA landscape for years to come. So it's hard to get exited for that. It was the same when kerry dominated the 00's. Only Tyrone really made that decade not a borefest.
The last decade incredible was even more dominant but this time by Dublin. So it is what it is. The championship has gone to absolute shite. Never mind the leinster championship. Don't get me started how much the GAA and Dublin ruined that.
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