dominatinMC wrote: » Quite fond of the sweeping generalisation, aren't we? This view is a microcosm of society at present, which basically translates as "I've seen some people/sectors/industries breaking rules, so all people/sectors/industries should suffer as a result".
Thinkingaboutit wrote: » Honestly I think Ireland is governed by the 'Irish science' of NPHET. Holohan should have resigned in 2018 over smear testing, but even without him they seem to assume positions on testing, formulate models and projections which no reasonable person could endorse, which includes scientific opinion outside this tiny isle. That Ireland is the only place in Europe where you cannot drink at the bar should mean something to those who think NPHET are gods of science, when they are essentially spoofers. I really hope this means the end of FFail, a party which has done so much harm (not that the rest are much better0.
xl500 wrote: » Well the last time the Politicans ignored his advise a lot of people died and the Health system came close to collapse
MOR316 wrote: » Love how the likes of yourself always leave out house visits and people being allowed to come home from England, during late November and December and bringing that English variant with them, when talking about Christmas. You also leave out Tony Holohan himself saying that NPHET didn't even see it coming... But yeah, whatever suits your argument I guess.
xl500 wrote: » I wasnt actually arguing I was just saying that NEPHET advised before Christmas not to open up the Pubs Politicans ignored that advise and we are where we are Cases went up immediatly I remember when there were 500 Cases only 12 were the English Variant so People now try to say oh we didnt see it coming well he did because he advised not to open up and that was before the english varianthttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-57638936
xl500 wrote: » I wasnt actually arguing I was just saying that NEPHET advised before Christmas not to open up the Pubs Politicans ignored that advise and we are where we are
bladespin wrote: » What happened the 'English' variant that was going to wipe us all out???
xl500 wrote: » https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/video-shows-hundreds-gathering-dublin-24420486?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar Responsible publicians again
Tenzor07 wrote: » The last time there wasn't anyone vaccinated and it was winter... If you look at the history of the Health Service in Ireland it's ALWAYS close to collapse! We were told to lockdown to allow the health service to increase capacity and staff numbers.... that hasn't happened either. Meanwhile they keep a large sector of the Irish economy closed based on some very dodgy predictions/modelling.
Tenzor07 wrote: » T We were told to lockdown to allow the health service to increase capacity and staff numbers.... that hasn't happened either.
saabsaab wrote: » Probably even more variants on the way. However, if enough of us are vaccinated they won't have such an impact in the future.
aziz wrote: » Apparently the large outbreak of delta in and around dungarvan in co Waterford was caused by people returning from the uk for a funeral So I can’t have a meal or pint indoors but no checks on what’s coming into the country
agoodpunt wrote: » more variants on the way lol, am sure you are wet dreaming about them can you get a life, all countries around us are more open, havent met 1 person last 2 days who thinks we are doing the right thing.
fin12 wrote: » And the South African one? Aren’t South Africa hosting the rugby competition... so deadly a few months ago, can anyone remember how this variant was wiped out. ?
xl500 wrote: » Exactly as you say people ignoring rules will keep us in lockdown longer No we shouldnt punish all forms of public transport but the rules should be followed And I can assure you around where I live a short walk will show the rules being flouted and as regards enforcement the Publicians should abide by the rules and not need to be made enforce them it is because of them flouting rules at Christmas we are in one of the longest periods of restriction in the world
MOH wrote: » Oh I see. So because pubs within a short walk of you are failing to enforce restrictions, all indoor hospitality throughout the country, including the vast majority following the rules, should be closed. But when a state sponsored transport company makes zero effort (and actually actively ignores) people flouting restrictions ..... that's magically a completely different scenario. Why don't you report the offending premises to your local Gardai? It might shock you to know that they're actually the ones responsible for enforcing laws.
fin12 wrote: » Yep ban indoor dining but international travel still full steam ahead. I’m sick of them dictating to us how to life, I think the pubs are sh*te now anyway because the ones in the city still enforcing the two hour limit when there is none for outdoor dining, that’s just as infuriating as NPHET. Thank god for the country pubs, treat their customers well and appreciate their business unlike the city ones.
Tazz T wrote: » Ya reckon. Nyphet have to get together to approve that in the same way they had the meeting to cancel dining in. Expect them to recommend travel for the vaxxed only at best. Worst case scenario - they'll use the emergency brake for the delta variant.
PTH2009 wrote: » Now lockdowns are back on the cards if this scary new variant causes an increase in case and hospital numbers ****ing sick of it all. Tony knows well the covid cert would be a ****ing nightmare for places and in turn places refusing to open cause of it. Tony says the Virus loves Alcohol, more like he doesn't like Alcohol and wants to kill the culture
