eddie73 wrote: » Happy clapping over vaccines is all well and good, but we have yet to see how the public are going to handle covid occurrences in the community, which will happen constantly from now on. When I say occurrences, that would mean 2 or 3 people on a daily basis. This will still make the news. This will still cause mayhem with the public. imagine a town like Athlone where this happens. A few people get covid. Headlines in the papers. People decide to stay at home rather than go to bars. or there are flash lockdowns. No pup for bars. Call me pessimistic, but I see this as a likely scenario.
dominatinMC wrote: » Are you serious? Stay living under your covers.peering out from behind the curtins if you like. The majority, and vast majority at that, will not give a ****e. Do people get worked up over the common cold or flu? Most people are already moving on, stay away from the hysteria-fuelled headlines of RTE and The Journal, and you might too.
saabsaab wrote: » Barring a new nasty variant the vaccines should sort it out.
dominatinMC wrote: » We're 15 months into this and we've had the Kent variant, SA variant, Brittany variant, California variant, New York variant, and now Indian variant. I'm sure there are countless others, but thankfully it appears so far that the vaccines work against them. Does anyone even mention the SA variant anymore, now that we have the big, bad Indian one? Whilst it is prudent to monitor them, there has been a lot of hysteria and hyperbole (mostly driven by the media) surrounding these variants, when most of it is completely unjustified.
eddie73 wrote: » You are missing the point. Most people don't give a sh*te, I agree with you. But what choice do they have if bars are either permanently closed or subject to restrictive public health regulations? They will not be allowed to behave in certain ways in bars from now on. Either that or they will have to go partying elsewhere. 100% agree with you about the hysterical media. We could argue that people will get accustomed to the new regulations and eventually work with them. But this is not the bar of yesterday, which is the kernel of this thread. The old bars are gone forever imo.
eddie73 wrote: » We could argue that people will get accustomed to the new regulations and eventually work with them. But this is not the bar of yesterday, which is the kernel of this thread. The old bars are gone forever imo.
Deleted User wrote: » You're rather premature issuing the death notice for the traditional pub. Within weeks, many (not all, granted) will reopen and thrive from pent-up demand. A cursory ear to the ground suggests that many people are eager to rekindle the craic and horse into them pints. You underestimate human nature, old habits die hard and an ingrained culture for generations cannot be eradicated within a year. Which isn't necessarily music to Tony's ears or others with a derisory view of the hospitality sector. Naturally, there are those who are apprehensive and won't return to the local in a hurry. These are in the minority, business as usual for the rest.
opinionated3 wrote: » If the vulnerable are now vaccinated, I see no reason why I can't sit up to the bar with other regulars. How long are we going to persist with this social distancing?
eddie73 wrote: » It depends what our expectations are regarding return of our boozers. If people think it will be the same as it was before covid, then they are delusional.
pubsy_boy wrote: » Living in England, really felt the need to reply to this The pubs are re-opened here fully. What are my experiences? Well the Wetherspoons are the only ones really adhering to the rules (table service etc). Every other one (proper country pubs) are back to normal. Sure there's a QR code plastered up on the door, but no-one bothers with that. And why wouldn't it be? Vaccines are out there, people are fine and the demand is there! Tbh with you, it's great. I daresay the delusional ones are those who reckon pub-life has gone for good!
saabsaab wrote: » I doubt that Pubs are gone for good but some won't be back and many will have to change to keep up with the new drinker. More food, more outdoor, better toilet facilities etc.
eddie73 wrote: » People will reinvent ways of socialising regardless of bars. Within weeks, bars will open, under severe TEMPORARY restrictions.
eddie73 wrote: » https://failtecdn.azureedge.net/failteireland/Guidelines-for-Re-opening-Hotels-and-Guesthouses.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3ixoNr5yDLwfEH50lTAlJiqw4zcdnfMa0rRZ46qKDRWTMInAe35vVRhEw I don't have your confidence in survival of bars or the new bar that we will experience in the months to come. Regardless of the minority who are afraid to go out again, there are also those people who won't want to. There is a big difference between these categories.
dominatinMC wrote: » I don't get this at all, who is this "new drinker"? The one who ridiculed the ridiculous €9 food rule last year, which is now gone? The one who is now going to sit outside in the pissing rain for a few weeks, until indoors re-opens? I think people are reading far too much into temporary short-term measures which are in place until the country is vaccinated.
Deleted User wrote: » Operating under a controlled system will be temporary. How long it lasts no one knows but we will get back to what we were like before covid.
saabsaab wrote: » Originally Posted by podgeandrodge Brenda Power: "I think going forward we will adapt to a more Scandanavian or more continental model where you have tables, with people sitting at them, and having a conversation where they can actually hear each other. A novel idea"I'd say it's going that way at least in the cities.
Coillte_Bhoy wrote: » Her interview was pathetic, basically telling us we dont enjoy packed pubs etc even if we say otherwise. Who the **** does she think she is? Talk about arrogant,:mad:
saabsaab wrote: » Attacking the messenger? She is pointing out the way it is going. I like the old style pub but I can see and already have seen many of them going. I doubt many like packed pubs busy yes but packed no. Hard to get to the bar and back without spilling it everywhere!
shadyslimshady wrote: » Not see a bit of a paradox there?
saabsaab wrote: » No. Can you point it out? The things I like are changing..
shadyslimshady wrote: » A 59 year old women didn't like a pub that she could barely move in due to it been packed?
PTH2009 wrote: » I can't wait to go back to the pub and do think people will flock back. Obv it will be a little different with the 'Temporary' regulations in place and little/no music/sport (tbh a lot of places will still have it) and early closes. Indoor very much my preference Pre covid opening/closing times will come back eventually (possible end of the year/early 2022) and i think people will just go out earlier instead of pre drinking As much as i'd love to book a hotel for indoor pints, nah i'll wait and live with outdoor
PTH2009 wrote: » Im 31 so doubt i'll have even 1 dose by outdoor opening on the 7th June. Should have 1 by the time indoor opens 11pm last orders with the place cleared by 11.30pm, hope i'm wrong but hard to see any change in that when/if Indoor reopens in July
saabsaab wrote: » Some pubs will be busy at first others maybe not as people will be nervous. I am good to go (fully vaccinated with the pass) so no worries for me.
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