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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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JTMan

What is going on in Slovakia with Sputnik V is interesting as Bloomberg reports here.

- Slovakia accused Moscow of delivering shots that were different from those used in a peer-reviewed study.
- Russia has in anger demanded Bratislava return the 200,000 doses it sent.
- Slovakian regulator has said it has not received sufficient documents from Russia to declare it safe and effective.
- Head of Slovak State Institute for Drug Control, said in a report. “The comparability and consistency of various batches produced in different places hasn’t been confirmed. In several cases, it appears that the vaccines have different properties.”

This report is in addition to reports that the EMA are investigating Russia for ethical violations in their trials for forcing people to partake.

funnydoggy

is_that_so wrote: »

The usual concern that a VOC will do that. None of them have so far. When are NPHET without a worry anyway?!

Absolutely but my mom is a big panicker. She has chrome browser alerts for RTÉ, Virgin Media News and Cork Safety Alerts because of their vaccine coverage lol

Thanks is_that_so. Nice to hear some context ☺️

TheFinanceGod

Genuine question, and not to sound miserable, but is there genuinely any good news out there regarding the easing of restrictions and Covid in general?

I've just read on the journal that Irelands vaccine targets for Mid-April won't be met, and that GP's just refuse signing up to the high-risk groups because of the pressure and stress of the programme to date.

I feel like every time Michael Martin made an announcement, he emphasized and completely relied on these vaccine targets as a last resort to give people some form of hope and save this governments image...and now they're not even being met?

Is there genuinely anything to be hopeful for at all? Any sign of when normality might return?

is_that_so

TheFinanceGod wrote: »

Genuine question, and not to sound miserable, but is there genuinely any good news out there regarding the easing of restrictions and Covid in general?

I've just read on the journal that Irelands vaccine targets for Mid-April won't be met, and that GP's just refuse signing up to the high-risk groups because of the pressure and stress of the programme to date.

I feel like every time Michael Martin made an announcement, he emphasized and completely relied on these vaccine targets as a last resort to give people some form of hope and save this governments image...and now they're not even being met?

Is there genuinely anything to be hopeful for at all? Any sign of when normality might return?

Yes, you can see your county from Monday!
HSE hope to do 190K shots next week and the week after.
65-69 should be signing up in the next couple of weeks on new shiny portal.
Normality of sorts could be late June or into July!

lawrencesummers

Have the government released details of the delay and reduction in quantity to the JnJ Vaccine yet?

Or are they going to try and hide that info in some way?

is_that_so

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Have the government released details of the delay and reduction in quantity to the JnJ Vaccine yet?

Or are they going to try and hide that info in some way?

It won't be here for about two weeks anyway and that has been flagged on account of US commitments. There has been a proposal by HIQA that part of the first batch be used on specific minorities and the homeless.

funnydoggy

TheFinanceGod wrote: »

Genuine question, and not to sound miserable, but is there genuinely any good news out there regarding the easing of restrictions and Covid in general?

I've just read on the journal that Irelands vaccine targets for Mid-April won't be met, and that GP's just refuse signing up to the high-risk groups because of the pressure and stress of the programme to date.

I feel like every time Michael Martin made an announcement, he emphasized and completely relied on these vaccine targets as a last resort to give people some form of hope and save this governments image...and now they're not even being met?

Is there genuinely anything to be hopeful for at all? Any sign of when normality might return?

We're seeing glimpses of normality returning every few days it seems lately. Even the fact that vaccinated people can meet indoors soon without social distancing/masks is a clear sign of better days to come.

To quote the best doctor around, Dr. Stephen Strange, "We're in the endgame now."

salmocab

is_that_so wrote: »

It won't be here for about two weeks anyway and that has been flagged on account of US commitments. There has been a proposal by HIQA that part of the first batch be used on specific minorities and the homeless.

That makes good sense, I actually asked about this earlier but it got lost in the arguments

Turtwig

funnydoggy wrote: »

To quote the best doctor around, Dr. Stephen Strange, "We're in the endgame now."

You realise now our odds for success are now 1 in 14,000,605?:mad:

lbj666

TheFinanceGod wrote: »

Genuine question, and not to sound miserable, but is there genuinely any good news out there regarding the easing of restrictions and Covid in general?

I've just read on the journal that Irelands vaccine targets for Mid-April won't be met, and that GP's just refuse signing up to the high-risk groups because of the pressure and stress of the programme to date.

I feel like every time Michael Martin made an announcement, he emphasized and completely relied on these vaccine targets as a last resort to give people some form of hope and save this governments image...and now they're not even being met?

Is there genuinely anything to be hopeful for at all? Any sign of when normality might return?

Look at Israel after just 60% of the population vacinated, the R0 is well below 1. Look at the UK starting to open up . Look at the upward trench in vacine rate and how that compares to UK at the min, dispite the issues with high risk groups you mention. The deliveries are all on a considerable upward trend.
Look at our falls in hospital figures and mortality thanks in part to the rollout so far, despite sustained case numbers at a not so preferable level.
The real known potential speed bump is the AZ situation, but irrespective of that the situation is still clearly going to improve. There will be nerves and frustration but things are going in the right direction.

josip

Turtwig wrote: »

You realise now our odds for success are now 1 in 14,000,605?:mad:

Did anyone else also google the 14m to make sure it was correct ?

is_that_so

France hits 10 million jabs!

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0408/1208524-coronavirus-global/

IRISHSPORTSGUY

is_that_so wrote: »

France hits 10 million jabs!

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0408/1208524-coronavirus-global/

The journey to 20 and 30 million will be a lot more smooth anyway.

funnydoggy

Turtwig wrote: »

You realise now our odds for success are now 1 in 14,000,605?:mad:

josip wrote: »

Did anyone else also google the 14m to make sure it was correct ?

:cool::cool::cool:

Micky 32

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1380222155573633024?s=21

muddypuppy

is_that_so wrote: »

France hits 10 million jabs!

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0408/1208524-coronavirus-global/

And for all the people complaining about Ireland - France has ~13 times the population, but only did ~10 times the jabs so far.

is_that_so

Stephen Donnelly has said that the HSE is to open five additional 'walk-in' Covid-19 test centres for asymptomatic people from this Saturday, details tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1380221185728913413

funnydoggy

CIT/MTU did a COVID screening today, and doing another tomorrow. Might go for the craic, see if I am asymptomatic but I doubt it. I'm home so much I'd surely have spread it to others in the house, even though I know the attack rate isn't 100%..

SSeanSS

muddypuppy wrote: »

And for all the people complaining about Ireland - France has ~13 times the population, but only did ~10 times the jabs so far.

"France has given a first jab of a Covid-19 vaccine to 10 million people". About 5% of its 67 million population got its second jab so they probably have administered more, or at least around the same in total.
Can't complain though, we're doing as well as our EU neighbours.

ACitizenErased

funnydoggy wrote: »

CIT/MTU did a COVID screening today, and doing another tomorrow. Might go for the craic, see if I am asymptomatic but I doubt it. I'm home so much I'd surely have spread it to others in the house, even though I know the attack rate isn't 100%..

UCC also had walk-in testing today and tomorrow, must be issues with college students at the moment. I got an email to go but not gonna bother.

Maxface

I have decided myself that if when I am offered the vaccine and it is AZ, I am going to decline it. I am under 40 and no underlying conditions. Not something I thought I would say or want and I can't wait for normality. I really want to get on with things and am no way anti vax or all that but just can't shake the lack of confidence in that jab.

Frank Bullitt

My Da, 72, is getting his vaccine on Sunday. I can not tell you how happy I am to finally hear that.

Slowly, we are getting there.

stephenjmcd

Maxface wrote: »

I have decided myself that if when I am offered the vaccine and it is AZ, I am going to decline it. I am under 40 and no underlying conditions. Not something I thought I would say or want and I can't wait for normality. I really want to get on with things and am no way anti vax or all that but just can't shake the lack of confidence in that jab.

The thing is it's unlikely your going to know in advance what vaccine your getting. You'll register online and the appointment will be given to you. If your appointment is for a MVC it'll be whatever is in use there. It'll be a general rollout when it hits the age groups so whatever is in use for the particular age groups will be distributed to the MVC, be it Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J etc. Whatever the centre is given it'll be what they use for the age group their currently giving it to.

It's easier to tell at the moment which vaccine is being used where because its only GPs using Pfizer & Moderna & the MVCs are all mainly AZ.

iamwhoiam

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

My Da, 72, is getting his vaccine on Sunday. I can not tell you how happy I am to finally hear that.

Slowly, we are getting there.

Two sisters and brother all done this week . Husband ,,another sister ., BIL and SIL all have dates for next week
All in 70-75 group , its ramping up now
Delighted

stephenjmcd

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Two sisters and brother all done this week . Husband ,,another sister ., BIL and SIL all have dates for next week
All in 70-75 group , its ramping up now
Delighted

Great to hear.

Gives everyone a boost when those around them are getting the appointments and then the vaccine

muddypuppy

SSeanSS wrote: »

"France has given a first jab of a Covid-19 vaccine to 10 million people". About 5% of its 67 million population got its second jab so they probably have administered more, or at least around the same in total.
Can't complain though, we're doing as well as our EU neighbours.

That will teach me to read the article instead of just the headline posted here

In my defense the headline is very confusing, why not say it's first jabs there, or say the actual total?
Anyway, around 12.5m according to the https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/vaccine-roll-out-overview

stephenjmcd

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

My Da, 72, is getting his vaccine on Sunday. I can not tell you how happy I am to finally hear that.

Slowly, we are getting there.

Love it, my own father is in the 65-69 age group so he'll be due to register on the portal shortly so should get a vaccine in the next few weeks

Frank Bullitt

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Two sisters and brother all done this week . Husband ,,another sister ., BIL and SIL all have dates for next week
All in 70-75 group , its ramping up now
Delighted

Brilliant, I hope my Ma (65) will not be too far off. She is going with my Da on Sunday, would be great if they just gave her a jab there because they live together, but I don't have my hopes up for that. I don't want to be greedy

iamwhoiam

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Love it, my own father is in the 65-69 age group so he'll be due to register on the portal shortly so should get a vaccine in the next few weeks

I will be joining him on the portal . They said tonight on the news that it will open earlier than planned and probably next week

stephenjmcd

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I will be joining him on the portal . They said tonight on the news that it will open earlier than planned and probably next week

Fingers crossed.

He's looking forward to it