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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Qrt wrote: »

I'd be in the early 20s cohort, and tbh I would still have no issue getting the AZ jab. I've been on medication since birth for an ongoing illness, and if I taken heed of everything listed on the "rare: 1 in 10,000" adverse effects list, I'd have gone blind by now. I'd have had strokes, heart attacks, lupus, and even a bendy willy. I do sometimes wonder what it's like to have the privilege of not having a chronic illness.

Well said.

Chris_5339762

Which illness has a side effect of a bendy willy? This is important, we must know.

josip

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Which illness has a side effect of a bendy willy? This is important, we must know.

Vaginal Scoliosis

Qrt

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Which illness has a side effect of a bendy willy? This is important, we must know.

I'm on a form of beta-blockers. I'm fairly sure they are a common medication like, which makes it all the more infuriating.

josip wrote: »

Vaginal Scoliosis

That sounds like an awful dose

nocoverart

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Which illness has a side effect of a bendy willy? This is important, we must know.

Tudiculosis

speckle

An update before sleep all the high riskers relatives over 80 and under who have chosen to get vaccinated have had the first shot and we are now in the midst of the second rounds..bar one who got sick just before shot 2. Hard to find data on a late second pfizer shot..does anyone have links?

They have had a *mixture of pfizer, moderna and AZ. We have had a range of absolutely no side effects to being very ill.

Separetly our own gp has the vaste majority of over 70s done and is ready on their end for high riskers under 70. A great local coach transport business with accessable coaches has been ferrying people individualy that dont have transport with state of the art UV air filtration.

*Edit I dont mean all 3 in the one vial..:D

Happydays2020

This is interesting from Commissioner Breton who is heading up the EU Task Force on vaccines.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/beating-covid-19-scale-up-vaccine-production-europe-thierry-breton

Elessar

Happydays2020 wrote: »

This is interesting from Commissioner Breton who is heading up the EU Task Force on vaccines.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/beating-covid-19-scale-up-vaccine-production-europe-thierry-breton

That's a great piece. Reassuring, and he noted that they expect J&J to fulfil in full their promised deliveries as expected.

trellheim

Shot plot update. Low points Sundays. Data correct for Ireland Gov portal as of Easter Sunday. I'll post these on Thursdays now to coincide with Sundays numbers.

ceegee

3451 for Monday. Looks like BH Mondays will be like Sundays

Stark

Hope they hurry up this week. We should have a hefty enough backlog of AZ supply to get through (about 136k doses by my estimate) as well as last week's Pfizer and Moderna deliveries. Looks like supply has finally outpaced speed of delivery.

is_that_so

Stark wrote: »

Hope they hurry up this week. We should have a hefty enough backlog of AZ supply to get through (about 136k doses by my estimate) as well as last week's Pfizer and Moderna deliveries. Looks like supply has finally outpaced speed of delivery.

Likely some good number of second doses to be done anyway. Having it on hand doesn't mean we can just hand it out, especially AZ. Not quite yet at the point of cutting loose.

stephenjmcd

Slovakia's drug agency Sukl says 'Sputnik V' vaccine batches delivered to the country do not have the same characteristics as batches used in The Lancet magazine studies

ninebeanrows

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Slovakia's drug agency Sukl says 'Sputnik V' vaccine batches delivered to the country do not have the same characteristics as batches used in The Lancet magazine studies

Looks like they could have a got stung with a scam vaccine?

seamus

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Looks like they could have a got stung with a scam vaccine?

Yes, it's called "Sputnik V" :pac:

Seriously though, none of this would be surprising. I would doubt that anyone is manufacturing fake doses of Sputnik; who would have the balls to do that.

But I have no doubt that the quality of the production would vary measurably depending on the doses intended recipient.

PhoenixParker

is_that_so wrote: »

Likely some good number of second doses to be done anyway. Having it on hand doesn't mean we can just hand it out, especially AZ. Not quite yet at the point of cutting loose.

AZ has a 12 week dosing interval and we only started using it in early Feb.
Up to yesterday's numbers we had at least 135k doses unused (205k doses used)

The problem is cohort 4 is very slow to identify and get vaccinated and that's who the backlog of AZ is earmarked for at the moment.

They should rocket through it in the mass vaccination centres for the 65-69 year olds but that's nearly 2 weeks away which is kinda frustrating since it's sitting there in the mean time.

trellheim

Why has AZ 12 week and PFizer 4 - is there a real answer to this question can anyone tell me

stephenjmcd

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Looks like they could have a got stung with a scam vaccine?

Yeah called Sputnik.

I admire your optimism for a scam vaccine but no it pretty much just proves there's massive issues with it if the substance they've provided differs from what they've submitted data for.

It'll never be approved in that case

Sky King

trellheim wrote: »

Why has AZ 12 week and PFizer 4 - is there a real answer to this question can anyone tell me

The data from AZ showed that it offered increased protection by being spaced out. It also means that more people can be given the initial vaccine when supplies are limited.

Pfizer did not recommend this spacing as their data showed good results with shorted spacing.

adam240610

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1380091048387567616?s=20

Should see good numbers for the remainder of the week

Pete_Cavan

Should break the 1m doses mark today, if we didn't already do so yesterday.

Stark

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

Should break the 1m doses mark today, if we didn't already do so yesterday.

Apparently the 1m mark was hit yesterday.

Corholio

Stark wrote: »

Apparently the 1m mark was hit yesterday.

Today it seems.

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1380063004004380672?s=19

Wolf359f

Stark wrote: »

Apparently the 1m mark was hit yesterday.

Would mean we averaged ~30k Tuesday and Wednesday, good figures. Definitely need to see the ramp up this week and beyond if they want to hit their monthly targets. They can't be blaming low deliveries from now on.

Meh, just noticed the tweet above.

irishlad.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=502588836

Dose 1 in cohort 1 and 2, seem to be finished more or less

timsey tiger

Corholio wrote: »

Today it seems.

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1380063004004380672?s=19

Is that 19% for dose 1 by end of this week or today, because it is a big jump from 13.4% on Monday?

Wolf359f

timsey tiger wrote: »

Is that 19% for dose 1 by end of this week or today, because it is a big jump from 13.4% on Monday?

It's based on eligible/adult population.
So it would be a jump from about 10% to 19%
I think. It's hard when they start using different % based on total population or adult population.

stefanovich

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah called Sputnik.

I admire your optimism for a scam vaccine but no it pretty much just proves there's massive issues with it if the substance they've provided differs from what they've submitted data for.

It'll never be approved in that case

You're quick to jump to conclusions.

It's all political. The outrage in Slovakia at the sputnik deal was faux outrage courtesy of opposition politicians and the EU.

seamus

timsey tiger wrote: »

Is that 19% for dose 1 by end of this week or today, because it is a big jump from 13.4% on Monday?

The 13.4% on that Twitter account is based on the entire population (including children).

That 19% is based on the "eligible population", i.e. everyone over 16.

The figure on Monday of "eligible" was 17.3%.

stephenjmcd

stefanovich wrote: »

You're quick to jump to conclusions.

It's all political. The outrage in Slovakia at the sputnik deal was faux outrage courtesy of opposition politicians and the EU.

Quick to jump to conclusions....

Their own version of our HPRA says what they've received in the vials isn't the same as what the data has been submitted for.

I'm sorry but it's nothing to do with any deal, they've literally got a vaccine that isn't what the data was submitted for to which those behind Sputnik have replied saying that it's fake news and that there are "enemies of Sputnik V in Slovakia". I mean come on....

So who do we believe, the Slovakian medicines agency who are part of the EU and involved in the EMA or Russia who look like their selling a dud to Slovakia