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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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JPA

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Take a look at the rest of that fellas Twitter feed, clearly a bull****ter. Also is claiming up to 160k people got vaccinated by pretending to be healthcare workers. Just making up stuff for attention.

Probably posts on boards

Yes he does, https://touch.boards.ie/user/804994

titan18

Ya, id completely get it we were talking about last summer. Seems far too late now and something we should hopefully not even need.

NeuralNetwork

titan18 wrote: »

If we're all vaccinated by then though, why the need for mass testing like that. You'd kind of be what's the point of getting a vaccine if you need a test to still do anything.

Sounds like we're not going to be at herd immunity levels of vaccination by September then, which is rather unambitious, or we're going to be rolling something out months after it's no longer needed, which is not unheard of with the way this campaign has been run so far.

We should have rolled out antigen testing months and months ago. It's been remarkably slow to happen here. A lot of talk. A lot of paranoia about reinventing the wheel when it comes to signing off and approving tests and nothing rolled out.

If there are big issues with variants in September however, we'll be looking at ongoing problems and needing to roll out booster shots / revaccination of cohorts to ensure it's not going to surge back.

VG31

titan18 wrote: »

If we're all vaccinated by then though, why the need for mass testing like that. You'd kind of be what's the point of getting a vaccine if you need a test to still do anything.

Exactly. By September we should be trying to encourge anyone who hasn't opted to take a vaccine yet to take one. The best way to be that is to make life as easy as possible for vaccinated people. If vaccinated people still have to get tested a lot of people simply won't bother taking it. Are we going to start testing people for colds too?

snotboogie

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Sounds like complete and utter crap. A random lad on twitter knows the goings on between the German & Irish governments.....

He's not quite a random lad, he is the primary developer behind the North Quays in Waterford. Complete buffer though, he got mixed up with a proposal that there would be a train going every hour from Dublin to Waterford with the train taking one hour and he refuses to accept he made a mistake and continues to repeat the lie. Also commissioned a bizarre study that aimed to prove Waterford was actually the 2nd biggest city in Ireland based on one hour commute times.

titan18

Strazdas wrote: »

That's what Harris is suggesting in fact - says he wants this so that all uni students in the country can return to their courses as soon as September (having missed an entire year at college).

If we're all vaccinated by then though, why the need for mass testing like that. You'd kind of be what's the point of getting a vaccine if you need a test to still do anything.

Deeper Blue

Why would Germany give Ireland vaccines and not one of its neighbours? Wouldn't it be better for their economy to help out Poland/Austria etc?

Story is complete horse****

Strazdas

titan18 wrote: »

Ya, stuff like that kind of worries me. Colleges only have a month left so that seems likely it's for September when everyone should be vaccinated.

That's what Harris is suggesting in fact - says he wants this so that all uni students in the country can return to their courses as soon as September (having missed an entire year at college).

Stark

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Take a look at the rest of that fellas Twitter feed, clearly a bull****ter. Also is claiming up to 160k people got vaccinated by pretending to be healthcare workers. Just making up stuff for attention.

Probably posts on boards

I just had to look at all the flags next to the name to guess he was a bull****ter.

VG31

titan18 wrote: »

Ya, stuff like that kind of worries me. Colleges only have a month left so that seems likely it's for September when everyone should be vaccinated.

Testing vaccinated and asymptomatic people just seems pointless to me (after a high level of vaccination). All it would do would create meaningless case numbers.

How do we ever move on from widespread testing if vaccines don't change anything?

Stheno

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Sounds like complete and utter crap. A random lad on twitter knows the goings on between the German & Irish governments.....

I thought as much

stephenjmcd

hynesie08 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377972148338356224?s=20

Your saying former td Noel Rock hasn't orchestrated the most significant shift in the war on covid?

Ah sure I just contacted the right people..... utter whiff of crap

Bubbaclaus

Take a look at the rest of that fellas Twitter feed, clearly a bull****ter. Also is claiming up to 160k people got vaccinated by pretending to be healthcare workers. Just making up stuff for attention.

Probably posts on boards

hynesie08

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Sounds like complete and utter crap. A random lad on twitter knows the goings on between the German & Irish governments.....

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377972148338356224?s=20

Your saying former td Noel Rock hasn't orchestrated the most significant shift in the war on covid?

titan18

VG31 wrote: »

Is that really necessary for vaccinated people? I would have thought having 80%+ of the population vaccinated would mean a drastic reduction in testing.
If the vaccine means you don't have to get tested for foreign travel, surely it should apply to other situations also?

Ya, stuff like that kind of worries me. Colleges only have a month left so that seems likely it's for September when everyone should be vaccinated.

stephenjmcd

Stheno wrote: »

Is there any truth in this claim that Germany have offered Ireland 1 million AZ doses in a swap deal?

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377963934225997825?s=19

Sounds like complete and utter crap. A random lad on twitter knows the goings on between the German & Irish governments.....

lbj666

Ya given his flawed logic of vacination of people on pup allows them back to work I wouldn't trust it. It doesn't solve issues in any sector involving crowds....yet

I wouldn't be keen in doing swaps either, especially if it's the Pfizer vacine, given they have all the robust data on variants while the rest are still gathering theirs.

Vicxas

hynesie08 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377971161028554755?s=20

Yeah, I'm calling bull****.

What are they referring to?

JP Liz V1

Marhay70 wrote: »

Listening to the Pat Kenny today it seems HSE can't afford to throw stones.

Their administration staff and families vaccinated too?

Turtwig

Augeo wrote: »

How does " If the government doesn’t want the 1m, allow private companies to take and vaccinate the 1m to those 480k on PuP to allow re-opening?"

What private companies would "take" 1m vaccines to administer to those on PUP?

SEETEC and Turas Nua.

hynesie08

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377971161028554755?s=20

Yeah, I'm calling bull****.

hynesie08

Some rando on twitter making an unverified claim about a vaccine swap? I give it 30 minutes till someone is on here blaming Dr Tony......

[Deleted User]

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Sounds like bollocks to me.......

Indeed, twitter full of the informed misinformed.

Scuid Mhór

Augeo wrote: »

How does " If the government doesn’t want the 1m, allow private companies to take and vaccinate the 1m to those 480k on PuP to allow re-opening?"

What private companies would "take" 1m vaccines to administer to those on PUP?

Yeah, that looked like a bizarre jump in logic.

Bubbaclaus

Stheno wrote: »

Is there any truth in this claim that Germany have offered Ireland 1 million AZ doses in a swap deal?

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377963934225997825?s=19

Sounds like bollocks to me. Why would Germany offer it specifically to Ireland, it would just go back into the EU supply and divided by population per country if they didn't want it.

Strazdas

astrofool wrote: »

Is this a loan? i.e. current supply swapped for future supply?

That's what he seems to suggest further down his thread.

First any of us have heard of it I'd say. I wonder where he got his info from - it definitely doesn't seem to have been in the Irish media, as they would have been all over the story.

[Deleted User]

Germany have an AZ surplus now as they are only giving it to over 55s I think.

astrofool

Stheno wrote: »

Is there any truth in this claim that Germany have offered Ireland 1 million AZ doses in a swap deal?

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377963934225997825?s=19

Is this a loan? i.e. current supply swapped for future supply?

[Deleted User]

How does " If the government doesn’t want the 1m, allow private companies to take and vaccinate the 1m to those 480k on PuP to allow re-opening?"

What private companies would "take" 1m vaccines to administer to those on PUP?

Stheno

Is there any truth in this claim that Germany have offered Ireland 1 million AZ doses in a swap deal?

https://twitter.com/Robcass78/status/1377963934225997825?s=19