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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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VG31

is_that_so wrote: »

Harris looking to rapid testing to get colleges back on campus.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0402/1207627-rapid-testing/

Is that really necessary for vaccinated people? I would have thought having 80%+ of the population vaccinated would mean a drastic reduction in testing.
If the vaccine means you don't have to get tested for foreign travel, surely it should apply to other situations also?

Marhay70

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm waiting to hear of arrests, fines, firings or suspensions for the Coombe and Beacon staff for vaccine thieves

Listening to the Pat Kenny today it seems HSE can't afford to throw stones.

is_that_so

Harris looking to rapid testing to get colleges back on campus.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0402/1207627-rapid-testing/

JP Liz V1

stephenjmcd wrote: »

You'll be a while waiting so

Yes money talks, cover ups

is_that_so

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm waiting to hear of arrests, fines, firings or suspensions for the Coombe and Beacon staff for vaccine thieves

You'll be waiting! Coombe saga seems over and at most they'll just take the Beacon out of the vaccination programme.

stephenjmcd

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm waiting to hear of arrests, fines, firings or suspensions for the Coombe and Beacon staff for vaccine thieves

You'll be a while waiting so

JP Liz V1

I'm waiting to hear of arrests, fines, firings or suspensions for the Coombe and Beacon staff for vaccine thieves

Scuid Mhór

is_that_so wrote: »

Think Donnelly will be publishing a list of estimated dates "within a week". If 65-69 are mid-April that sounds about right.

Thanks is_that_so. I appreciate your posts on covid/the vaccines generally.

is_that_so

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

So when are Cohort 7 scheduled to start? Early May?

Think Donnelly will be publishing a list of estimated dates "within a week". If 65-69 are mid-April that sounds about right.

Scuid Mhór

So when are Cohort 7 scheduled to start? Early May?

Widescreen

wish I was 65 now and not in nine months time!

crossman47

Garlinge wrote: »

So they are working on over 70's cohort now. How long before move to next group? Will jabs be done on Bank holidays ie today and Monday?

Yes. I know people scheduled for tomorrow and Sunday.

History Queen

lbj666 wrote: »

How does it correlate with Irish statistics.

I don't know. I'm not sure we've been keeping stats re occupation? Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. Some participants in the study were Irish but not sure what proportion.

is_that_so

11521323 wrote: »

Yeah we'll see.

Pfizer are pretty reliable and you'd expect J&J to deliver their first tranche. As always it's what AZ do.

PhoenixParker

PMBC wrote: »

How many people in the 65-69 population group?

200-220k according to the census

11521323

is_that_so wrote: »

supposedly

Yeah we'll see.

is_that_so

Garlinge wrote: »

So they are working on over 70's cohort now. How long before move to next group? Will jabs be done on Bank holidays ie today and Monday?

65-69 are pencilled for 3rd week in April I believe via the new portal. They are still doing 1-4 anyway and will be for a bit.

is_that_so

PMBC wrote: »

How many people in the 65-69 population group?

Could be 200K so with supplies supposedly increasing it would take at most at two weeks.

Garlinge

So they are working on over 70's cohort now. How long before move to next group? Will jabs be done on Bank holidays ie today and Monday?

lbj666

History Queen wrote: »

According to this study that isn't the case. I read it a few days ago. I think it was transport workers in particular that were seen as being at increased risk though socioecomic factors also play a role.

https://oem.bmj.com/content/early/2020/12/01/oemed-2020-106731

How does it correlate with Irish statistics.

josip

Results on the ground are definitely showing good progress and I agree that criticism is unwarranted.
However, questions do have to be asked about how this could have happened and this has more to do with the IT system than clerical staff.

Why does the IT System allow someone who has already been vaccinated to be assigned an appointment for another round of vaccinations within this timeframe?
How many of the 572 no-shows yesterday were due to double bookings/prior vaccinations?

The HSE are using our unique IHIs at the backend, not the Irish National ID of, "Pat the Bollix, Kerry", so either:

many earlier vaccinations were not recorded properly or
the IT system does not perform any check of previous Covid vaccination/appointment allocation when allocating an appointment.

I definitely think there is scope for improvement in the IT support systems.
Is it safe for people to get 2 Pfizer and 2 AZ shots within 4 months for example?

PMBC

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Depends on how fast group 6 goes

How many people in the 65-69 population group?

History Queen

lbj666 wrote: »

Other than healthcare, no occupation is at more risk of severe illness than someone in the general population in the age bracket above them.

According to this study that isn't the case. I read it a few days ago. I think it was transport workers in particular that were seen as being at increased risk though socioecomic factors also play a role.

https://oem.bmj.com/content/early/2020/12/01/oemed-2020-106731

funnydoggy

irishlad. wrote: »

Tuesday's numbers up: 20,134 vaccinated. Highest Tuesday so far

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=1219026690

irishlad.

Tuesday's numbers up: 20,134 vaccinated. Highest Tuesday so far

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=1219026690

SJFly

Managing the rollout by anything other than age will be impossible to manage. We've seen how the hcw category has ballooned, and there's no reason to believe the same won't happen in the other categories. It will result in healthy young adults being vaccinated before the older population who are actually at risk of dying. I think the age categories are the fairest way to go.

lbj666

TheDriver wrote: »

Yes. The Govt decided Mon to renege on their promise to Gardai, educaton staff, postmen, bus drivers etc.

Other than healthcare, no occupation is at more risk of severe illness than someone in the general population in the age bracket above them.

stephenjmcd

Hardyn wrote: »

As far as I know there are milestones at 6,12 and 24 months.

Would make sense for sure

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stephenjmcd wrote: »

They only have data for about 6 months at the moment.

They can't say yeah this lasts 1 year for example. In 6 months time it could be yup the vaccine offers at least 1 years protection.

As far as I know there are milestones at 6,12 and 24 months.

Sanjuro

The outrage over a couple of clerical errors is a little much to be honest. Big picture, they're trying to vaccinate an entire country with a double dose vaccine in as quick a manner as possible. While also dealing with infections, testing and administering care. To expect everything to go off without some hitches is frankly delusional.