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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Economics101

Neural Network: my remark about the HSE's stunning IT record was aimed at human error as much as the pure IT aspects.

To return to the question of no variation or choice of vaccination centre, would this be because the IT being used to handle the whole operation is inflexible and unable to cope with complexities such as choice of venue.

Just an example of what might be at stake: suppose I live in Drogheda and commute to work in Dublin. If I am assigned to a vaccination centre in Drogheda this could prove relatively inconvenient, especially if there was a centre close to my place of work in Dublin.

Corholio

Stark wrote: »

Wonder what happens if they're ready with the vaccines for the 65-69 year olds before the portal is ready.

Was wondering this myself after hearing that. Hopefully it won't be wholly contingent on the portal up and running before 65-69 can start getting vaccinated.

celt262

Economics101 wrote: »

Neural Network: my remark about the HSE's stunning IT record was aimed at human error as much as the pure IT aspects.

To return to the question of no variation or choice of vaccination centre, would this be because the IT being used to handle the whole operation is inflexible and unable to cope with complexities such as choice of venue.

Just an example of what might be at stake: suppose I live in Drogheda and commute to work in Dublin. If I am assigned to a vaccination centre in Drogheda this could prove relatively inconvenient, especially if there was a centre close to my place of work in Dublin.

I would imagine you will be allocated a centre in the vicinity of your address.

lbj666

Economics101 wrote: »

Neural Network: my remark about the HSE's stunning IT record was aimed at human error as much as the pure IT aspects.

To return to the question of no variation or choice of vaccination centre, would this be because the IT being used to handle the whole operation is inflexible and unable to cope with complexities such as choice of venue.

Just an example of what might be at stake: suppose I live in Drogheda and commute to work in Dublin. If I am assigned to a vaccination centre in Drogheda this could prove relatively inconvenient, especially if there was a centre close to my place of work in Dublin.

I think it's more to do with avoiding an imbalance in bookings in centres, if there's a centre that is of high preference over others in an area the rollout in that area only moves as fast as the capacity of that centre.

You'd think it shouldn't matter, people would happily take their next preference insted of waiting. But it does eliminate avenues for things to be unnessecarily dragged out.

Sky King

I'd travel from here to the butt end of Kerry on a unicycle for a vaccine lads. I'm not in the slightest put out about any potential inconvenience such as venues being a few miles away.

speckle

Quick answer please ill relative what is the maxuim dose space betwern first and secong pfizer jab...thanks

ACitizenErased

speckle wrote: »

Quick answer please ill relative what is the maxuim dose space betwern first and secong pfizer jab...thanks

Taken from HSE guidance:
The recommended interval between doses is 28 days (The National immunisation Advisory Committee recommends an interval of 21 to 28 days) The minimum interval between doses is 17 days.

MerlinSouthDub

marno21 wrote: »

a group of “experts” invited on to tell us all about their plan to lock people in their houses til September so we can have no Covid cases for 5 days until someone introduces it into the country via a ferry or from Northern Ireland

Brilliant. Zero Covid debunked in one sentence.

Beasty

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Icantthinkof1

Anyone know which vaccine the 65’s-70’s will get? Obvs my mum will take any vaccine but she’s curious to know which one
Also am I right in thinking that over 65’s if they were given the AZ vaccine they won’t have to wait the 12 weeks for their 2nd dose and get their 2nd dose after 4 weeks?

celt262

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

Anyone know which vaccine the 65’s-70’s will get? Obvs my mum will take any vaccine but she’s curious to know which one
Also am I right in thinking that over 65’s if they were given the AZ vaccine they won’t have to wait the 12 weeks for their 2nd dose and get their 2nd dose after 4 weeks?

Definitely AZ is an option I know someone in that range with underlying and thats what they got.

JPup

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Taken from HSE guidance:
The recommended interval between doses is 28 days (The National immunisation Advisory Committee recommends an interval of 21 to 28 days) The minimum interval between doses is 17 days.

I think there is a good chance that gets extended for under 65s without underlying conditions. If it goes to 12 weeks like in the UK then we can get everyone a first shot by July.

JPup

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

Anyone know which vaccine the 65’s-70’s will get? Obvs my mum will take any vaccine but she’s curious to know which one
Also am I right in thinking that over 65’s if they were given the AZ vaccine they won’t have to wait the 12 weeks for their 2nd dose and get their 2nd dose after 4 weeks?

As of now the gap for all AZ recipients is 12 weeks as far as I know and i doubt that will change for any age category. The shorter the gap, the longer it takes to give everyone at least one shot.

ACitizenErased

I’m not sure if this has been posted before but the HSE have start dates up for group 6 and group 7 on their website. Says group 6 starts April 19th and group 7 on May 3rd.
https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/rollout/rollout.html

Stheno

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’m not sure if this has been posted before but the HSE have start dates up for group 6 and group 7 on their website. Says group 6 starts April 19th and group 7 on May 3rd.
https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/rollout/rollout.html

Its age based after group seven correct?

ACitizenErased

Stheno wrote: »

Its age based after group seven correct?

Correct

Micky 32

stephenjmcd wrote: »

no it's not permanent.

I wish i could share your optimism. They are adding another 26 states and Israel is one of them. Israel are down to circa 200 cases a day with the vast majority vaccinated and their R number plummeting. It doesn’t make sense.

quartz1

Have they published any medical criteria or list of conditions where you can check if you belong to group 7.

odyssey06

quartz1 wrote: »

Have they published any medical criteria or list of conditions where you can check if you belong to group 7.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/39038-provisional-vaccine-allocation-groups/#people-aged-16-64-who-have-an-underlying-condition-that-puts-them-at-high-risk-of-severe-disease-and-death

Stheno

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Correct

So potentially 50-59 year olds in mid May?

stephenjmcd

Micky 32 wrote: »

I wish i could share your optimism. They are adding another 26 states and Israel is one of them. Israel are down to circa 200 cases a day with the vast majority vaccinated and their R number plummeting. It doesn’t make sense.

While this isn't the thread to discuss this & I don't want to take it off topic, no quarantine list is permanent. Silly to think otherwise really. That's like saying travel will never resume. The justification for Israel I presume is Palestine.

Like I say I don't want to go off topic though

PhilOssophy

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Let's not leave it at that. You were the one who had a go at people, don't expect them to just drop it because you've been called out.

Kingston Mills is generally well respected and not typically included when people give out about McConkey, Staines, Killeen, and Ryan.

The fact that Staines has a background in epidemiology doesn't make him an expert on the COVID situation specifically. A quick google doesn't show anything that would suggest he's an expert on viruses.

No one suggested they were accountants or solicitors.

I stand by everything I said and don't care what you or anyone think. I tried to drop it because its not related to the title. Not because I was wrong.

Anthony Staines has a PhD in epidemiology (go google if you don't know what epidemiology is) and I would expect that he is perfectly entitled and educated to answer questions about an infectious global pandemic on that basis.

You would think the way people were going on they were accountants or solicitors was what I was trying to say. They aren't. They are highly trained medical professionals. They are more than educated and entitled to answer questions in this field to be asked about it and if you disagree, I don't care less.

I stand by what I said - nobody with a degree and PhD in medicine should be called a clown by a nobody on a forum like this. If you don't agree, I think we'll have to differ!

Have a good weekend

Micky 32

https://twitter.com/istanbultelaviv/status/1377717351257403393?s=21

ACitizenErased

Stheno wrote: »

So potentially 50-59 year olds in mid May?

Depends on how fast group 6 goes

Wolf359f

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’m not sure if this has been posted before but the HSE have start dates up for group 6 and group 7 on their website. Says group 6 starts April 19th and group 7 on May 3rd.
https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/rollout/rollout.html

Still saying group 7 will be contacted by their GP. What about people who deal directly with a hospital consultant and their GP is not aware they have an underlying condition?

Corruptedmorals

Great to see Group 4 ramp up. I work in a hospital, first vaccine clinic was tiny...Next week's one is hundreds of people and is in a MVC. Great work being done behind the scenes by doctors and nursing staff to identify eligible people, much of it manual as well as all of the work to arrange everything.

namloc1980

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Looks like this is turning into a scandal.

cameramonkey

less than 43,000 Israelis received their first coronavirus shot in the past week. Still one million unvaccinated there. they must be people who are reluctant for one reason or another.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-vaccination-slows-down-significantly-to-6000-first-shots-per-day/

Wolf359f

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Looks like this is turning into a scandal.

Could they not have had a tick box on the online portal that states you are a HCW or what ever the criteria was and any false declaration you can be fined etc..
It's not like it's anonymous!

Goldengirl

Wolf359f wrote: »

Could they not have had a tick box on the online portal that states you are a HCW or what ever the criteria was and any false declaration you can be fined etc..
It's not like it's anonymous!

It is like stealing medication from the vulnerable, should be fined at the very least.
But it'll be stepped over and forgotten about.
This had to be down to some HSE admin telling others about the loophole.
Amounts to professional misconduct, this the Coombe and the Beacon 😔