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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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KrustyUCC

joseywhales wrote: »

So I should be getting vaccinated soon(this month, both shots), I'm living in the us. Can I come home then or do I have to sit in a hotel for two weeks?

US not on the quarantine hotel list

Micky 32

A couple of positive qoutes from government today to end a Monday night:

“”It is hoped this time will be the last appeal for people to hold firm as the vaccination programme ramps up significantly.””

“”The Minister for Transport, Environment and Climate said it was critical to get the next few weeks right to bring the country back on the path back to normality, which is now in prospect.””

joseywhales

KrustyUCC wrote: »

US not on the quarantine hotel list

Praise be! After I get this vaccine I'm going to wear a mask and wash hands but I'm ditching every other precaution.

CIARAN_BOYLE

joseywhales wrote: »

So I should be getting vaccinated soon(this month, both shots), I'm living in the us. Can I come home then or do I have to sit in a hotel for two weeks?

Its important to note that vaccination status doesn't provide an exemption to quarantine hotels.

At the moment USA is not on the list for quarantine hotels. This could change should a variant of concern arise over there.

You may still need a negative PCR test to enter (or be sent to the hotels) I believe.

KrustyUCC

Yeah negative PCR test definitely needed

funnydoggy

Micky 32 wrote: »

A couple of positive qoutes from government today to end a Monday night:

“”It is hoped this time will be the last appeal for people to hold firm as the vaccination programme ramps up significantly.””

“”The Minister for Transport, Environment and Climate said it was critical to get the next few weeks right to bring the country back on the path back to normality, which is now in prospect.””

Keep talking

Dressoutlet

quokula wrote: »

Am I reading this wrong, or are there numbers not really particularly better than Ireland's?

They've a population of 9 million, with twice as many in hospital and three times as many in ICU as us.

They have 0 restrictions. So their numbers are really falling off a cliff.

Midlife

Economics101 wrote: »

Just saw this on RTE News website:

I would have thought that the HSE would have had a reasonably accurate of the numbers in Group 4. Going from 150,000 to 250,000 is a 67% increase. What's going on? I never had much confidence in the HSE's ability to collect process information. I still don't!

I'd say a lot of people are owning up to things like obesity now that it allows them to jump the queue.

Like there's group 4 that are in regular communication with doctors and well known and then there's people who are technically in group 4 but don't engage with medical services. A lot of them have probably gotten in touch over the last while.

It's still a big jump though.

[Deleted User]

snotboogie wrote: »

Unreal result, still only at 115 vaccines per 100 BTW

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1376651803912245254?s=19

Those Isreali results really back up the strategy of keeping to the vaccine regimen. Very close to the UK in first does, but the effect of having 50% of the population 2nd dosed has really made a difference, even with significantly fewer restrictions

Sky King

Deleted User wrote: »

Those Isreali results really back up the strategy of keeping to the vaccine regimen. Very close to the UK in first does, but the effect of having 50% of the population 2nd dosed has really made a difference, even with significantly fewer restrictions

Yes but the question is, which approach is better when the supply is severely restricted?

wadacrack

Variants unlikely to escape the current vaccines.

https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1376789789651955717

PhoenixParker

Stark wrote: »

I wonder about the rapid move through the age groups. They don't seem to have that many people overall vaccinated yet. Wonder have they simply abandoned the priority lists due to poor uptake.

From an admin point of view, priority lists are a nightmare.

For every person you've to verify that they're entitled.
Most people will be but you'll have this cohort of 10%ish of chancers who aren't who take up SOOOOOO much time when you say no.
And they need to have an appeals process, and then there'll be a few who you get wrong who'll storm up the media, and there'll be a few who you get right who storm up the media but you can't defend yourself because it's confidential.

Also nevermind the grey areas - like you've allowed teachers, what about substitue teachers, even if they haven't worked in a year, and teachers on long term sick leave, and teachers who retire next week, and the secretary in the school, but she only works 3 hours a week, and the cleaner . . . surely the cleaner needs it more than the substitute who only subs one day a month . . .

Age is 1,000,000 times easier to administer and it's also a pretty good proxy for likeliness to end up in hospital.

funnydoggy

When does the vaccine tracker dashboard upload each day does anyone know?

1huge1

Usually between 10-10:30am I think.

Edit: Just released, 14k doses on Saturday.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-27-march-2021.pdf

Sanjuro

1huge1 wrote: »

Usually between 10-10:30am I think.

Edit: Just released, 14k doses on Saturday.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-27-march-2021.pdf

After such huge numbers for the previous Friday and Thursday, that comes with a slight tinge of disappointment, but compared to previous Saturdays, that's better. Unless there's a massive drop off for Sunday, we should breach 120,000 for last week, which is very good.

1huge1

Sanjuro wrote: »

After such huge numbers for the previous Friday and Thursday, that comes with a slight tinge of disappointment, but compared to previous Saturdays, that's better. Unless there's a massive drop off for Sunday, we should breach 120,000 for last week, which is very good.

Its interesting to note that Pfizer is the workhorse there still, if we really are to get a very sizeable amount of AZ in the coming days, (possibly already begun), we could see some very impressive numbers soon as well as Pfizer being consistent.

Apogee

1huge1 wrote: »

Usually between 10-10:30am I think.

Edit: Just released, 14k doses on Saturday.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-27-march-2021.pdf

Also passed 800,000 total doses. Mon-Sat: 118,321

seamus

Economics101 wrote: »

Just saw this on RTE News website:

I would have thought that the HSE would have had a reasonably accurate of the numbers in Group 4. Going from 150,000 to 250,000 is a 67% increase. What's going on? I never had much confidence in the HSE's ability to collect process information. I still don't!

The HSE could really only guess tbh. Many of the individuals in Cohort 4 would fly complete under the radar. Most specifically those with a BMI over 40.

I think there have been various studies done on how many people are overweight or obese, but I don't think they broke it down to class 1, 2, 3 etc. And I think we'll be shocked to find out just how many people are class 3 obese in this country.

dominatinMC

wadacrack wrote: »

Variants unlikely to escape the current vaccines.

https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1376789789651955717

Fcuk ya, take that McConkey et al.!

PhilOssophy

The thread has moved on, but to me Boris is talking through his backside.

The time for doing the "neighbourly thing to do" was to agree a common approach to keeping this virus out of here. They have played political games with peoples lives' and as a result of their unwillingness to work together, thousands of lives have been lost. We could have been in the same position as NZ now but for the unwillingness of the DUP to accept that working together when you are on an island is the best strategy.

Don't ever let Arlene and her Nordie and Westminster colleagues pull the wool over our eyes otherwise. If I was MM I'd tell Boris and the DUP to stick their vaccines where the sun don't shine.

Azatadine

dominatinMC wrote: »

Fcuk ya, take that McConkey et al.!

Don't forget Gerry Killeen, Anthony Staines and Thomas Ryan. The four horsemen of the apocalypse (with McConkey).

thebourke

is there a website where they show how many people are getting vaccinated every day?

Le Bruise

dominatinMC wrote: »

Fcuk ya, take that McConkey et al.!

But, but, but the vaccines are only one tool in the tool box and won't bring this to an end unless we all dig holes and live in them without human contact for the next 5 years....

There's going to be quite a few 'experts' looking a wee bit silly come summer time I feel!

marno21

95-105k was the plan for last week. Upto 118k by Saturday.

Very impressive scaling up. Well done to all involved

Klonker

wadacrack wrote: »

Variants unlikely to escape the current vaccines.

https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1376789789651955717

Between this, the proof of huge drop in transmissions after even the first dose and the confirmed supply from J&J its been a great 24hrs on the vaccine front.

I don't think it'll make much difference to NPHETs pessimistic plans and outlook any time soon though!

celt262

Is it likely to go to an online booking system when the supplies are available where you log in and book a slot similar to the UK?

Wolf359f

City West was jammers today. Car park all full and a constant stream in and out for vaccines. Felt bad for the test centre staff. didn't see any cars for testing.
I also seen 4 Laois fire brigades parked and staff going in, hopefully for a vaccine.

celt262

Wolf359f wrote: »

City West was jammers today. Car park all full and a constant stream in and out for vaccines. Felt bad for the test centre staff. didn't see any cars for testing.
I also seen 4 Laois fire brigades parked and staff going in, hopefully for a vaccine.

I'm sure they are delighted to see people going in for vaccines instead of tests!

ddarcy

Midlife wrote: »

I'd say a lot of people are owning up to things like obesity now that it allows them to jump the queue.

Like there's group 4 that are in regular communication with doctors and well known and then there's people who are technically in group 4 but don't engage with medical services. A lot of them have probably gotten in touch over the last while.

It's still a big jump though.

I posted earlier on here that the HSE have changed the rules/ requirements to qualify. So I have an HBA1C that would be very similar to a non diabetic. I am also not obese etc. But the hospitals look to have classified every diabetic as group 4 now! GPs are also being given liberties, so wouldn’t surprise me if they were moving borderline patients up.

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celt262 wrote: »

I'm sure they are delighted to see people going in for vaccines instead of tests!

These guys live to see up the nostrils of people with respiratory illnesses