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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Nqp15hhu

namloc1980 wrote: »

Coveney says just now on RTE that there is no vaccine offer from the UK that the government is aware of and suggests it is a bit of politicking.

Either that or they declined it.

astrofool

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Either that or they declined it.

The UK has come out and said they have no excess vaccines to give away, this is purely playing politics.

PCeeeee

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Your loss! We can't win with the Irish!

Now you said it

Professor Moriarty

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Your loss! We can't win with the Irish!

I wouldn't trust this populist Tory government to tell me the time of day.

Apogee

Reid on RTÉ's This Week:

-"Very high risk" (Cohort 4) to be done primarily in hospitals or hospital-led teams in vaccinations centres
-Cohort 4: 200-220k estimate
-Process of identifying all in Cohort 4 still not completed
-Vaccinations already started and will run through end April/early May

-"High risk aged 16*-69" to start immediately afterwards, likely early May and continue through May
-"High risk" identified via GPs

-Almost 800,000 doses by end of today: -570k dose 1 (15% pop) and 220k dose 2 (6%)

-Cohort 6 (65-69) also in April/May in parallel with "high risk"
-Increase in active vaccination centres from 14 now to 30 in April

No question on or discussion of supplies unfortunately.

*very hard to tell if he's saying 60-69 or 16-69 and conflating Cohorts 5/7

adam240610

Apogee wrote: »

Reid on RTÉ's This Week:

-"Very high risk" (Cohort 4) to be done primarily in hospitals or hospital-led teams in vaccinations centres
-Cohort 4: 200-220k estimate
-Process of identifying all in Cohort 4 still not completed
-Vaccinations already started and will run through end April/early May

-"High risk aged 16*-69" to start immediately afterwards, likely early May and continue through May
-"High risk" identified via GPs

-Almost 800,000 doses by end of today: -570k dose 1 (15% pop) and 220k dose 2 (6%)

-Cohort 6 (65-69) also in April/May in parallel with "high risk"
-Increase in active vaccination centres from 14 now to 30 in April

No question on or discussion of supplies unfortunately.

*very hard to tell if he's saying 60-69 or 16-69 and conflating Cohorts 5/7

800000 by end of today would have us giving 120k doses Mon-Sun over the past week

Tyrone212

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Your loss! We can't win with the Irish!

Funny the genealogy results the other week you posted showed you're a majority Irish with a touch of ulster Scots. Funny way to speak about your own.

Anyway. Politicking as others have mentioned

The Sunday Times in England has an article about possible vaccines being sent to Ireland. It's behind a paywall but I could read the first couple of paragraphs. Their heart is in the right place.......

"It would be the first time the UK has exported vaccines to the EU, but the plan was described by a British cabinet minister as a “poke in the eye for Brussels” because it could disrupt EU unity."

Ted_YNWA

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I wouldn't trust this populist Tory government to tell me the time of day.

MOD

There is plenty of other threads here& in Politics to discuss the UK Government

hynesie08

adam240610 wrote: »

800000 by end of today would have us giving 120k doses Mon-Sun over the past week

It was 81k Mon-Thurs, if Friday is 25k plus it's very doable.

CrabRevolution

The idea of getting spare vaccines from the UK is just politicking. Both sides have officially stated that there are no spares and no offer has been made, but the idea will still stick unfortunately.

It does no harm to the UK to allow the rumour to circulate unofficially though. There's a vocal cohort in Ireland who will use the imaginary refusal of non-existent surplus UK vaccines as a stick to beat the government and EU with.

Similar to how if X country agrees with Russia to get 100'000 doses of Sputnik V starting in 2022, the whole "100'000 doses" and "2022" parts get ignored and we hear "X country is getting Sputnik V, so let's buy 10 million doses NOW and vaccinate 24/7 until we're done!!! Stupid HSE etc."

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1376114850322059269

Gael23

Apogee wrote: »

Reid on RTÉ's This Week[/

-"High risk aged 16*-69" to start immediately afterwards, likely early May and continue through May
-"High risk" identified via GPs
/7

Cohort 7 being identified by GPs will be a mess

Wolf359f

Gael23 wrote: »

Cohort 7 being identified by GPs will be a mess

Well at least they can start identifying patients well in advance. The new cohort 4 didn't really give the hospitals much notice to get the lists together.

I'm not sure it will be a mess, don't the GP's know their patients? I'm not sure how their computer system works though.

is_that_so

Wolf359f wrote: »

Well at least they can start identifying patients well in advance. The new cohort 4 didn't really give the hospitals much notice to get the lists together.

I'm not sure it will be a mess, don't the GP's know their patients? I'm not sure how their computer system works though.

The mess of AZ has helped in that regard by giving them more time. I believe Group 4 who attend hospital will be first.

Elessar

Is there an updated vaccine delivery schedule for April anywhere?

ACitizenErased

I thought group 7 was supposed to be signing up online?

titan18

Gael23 wrote: »

Cohort 7 being identified by GPs will be a mess

Anyone who has a GP and goes there regularly should be identified pretty easily surely.

Turtwig

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I thought group 7 was supposed to be signing up online?

That was initial musing. I think they've decided it against though. Once mass vaccination of non risk groups begins they'll probably do it through online registry.

[Deleted User]

Gael23 wrote: »

Cohort 7 being identified by GPs will be a mess

Yeah I don't understand that one, plenty of cohort 7 will be far better known to their consultants, especially the younger people in that group.

ACitizenErased

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah I don't understand that one, plenty of cohort 7 will be far better known to their consultants, especially the younger people in that group.

I'm part of group 7 and have never ever been to a consultant about my condition, all dealt through GP so I don't agree tbh

[Deleted User]

titan18 wrote: »

Anyone who has a GP and goes there regularly should be identified pretty easily surely.

That's the issue, lots of cohort 7 probably never have a need to see their GP, more likely to have hospital appointments on a regular basis

[Deleted User]

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm part of group 7 and have never ever been to a consultant about my condition, all dealt through GP so I don't agree tbh

Asthma? Yeah that's fair enough. Anyone on most immune suppression therapy probably only deal with consultants/hospitals regularly though, things like arthritis, crohns. Many of the drugs used for these people can't even be prescribed by a GP.

is_that_so

Elessar wrote: »

Is there an updated vaccine delivery schedule for April anywhere?

Yep, lottery.ie! Depends how much you believe the suppliers, AZ in particular. Supposed to be 1m+ from April. Other countries have projections out to June and July we tend to do it weekly, a better approach with a flaky supply chain IMO.

Cork2021

Turtwig wrote: »

That was initial musing. I think they've decided it against though. Once mass vaccination of non risk groups begins they'll probably do it through online registry.

But aren’t we all at risk no? So online registration with provisional date for vaccination should’ve happened and revised depending on supplies and or risk level.

ddarcy

is_that_so wrote: »

The mess of AZ has helped in that regard by giving them more time. I believe Group 4 who attend hospital will be first.

Group 4 has already begun. I’m supposed to be 7, but I think doctors have moved everyone from 7 to 4 or so it seems. HSE removed any guidelines that define high risk, so they might as well have said group 7 is 4 now! I had my first dose last Monday and the nurse mentioned that it seemed like all the diabetics got called in on the same day! Obviously depends where you are, but looks like there are multiple areas where this has happened.

irishlad.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=1219026690

Majority of doses going to cohort 3 again. Another 12,000 1st doses should have cohort 2 half vaccinated.

Wolf359f

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm part of group 7 and have never ever been to a consultant about my condition, all dealt through GP so I don't agree tbh

I'm the opposite, group 7, but never seen my GP about it, all done through the hospital consultant. My GP would know my condition, but not my medication which makes me group 7.

iamwhoiam

ddarcy wrote: »

Group 4 has already begun. I’m supposed to be 7, but I think doctors have moved everyone from 7 to 4 or so it seems. HSE removed any guidelines that define high risk, so they might as well have said group 7 is 4 now! I had my first dose last Monday and the nurse mentioned that it seemed like all the diabetics got called in on the same day! Obviously depends where you are, but looks like there are multiple areas where this has happened.

If that is the case then the 60-69 group will be even longer waiting . They were already moved down from 5 to 6 .

Scuid Mhór

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Asthma? Yeah that's fair enough. Anyone on most immune suppression therapy probably only deal with consultants/hospitals regularly though, things like arthritis, crohns. Many of the drugs used for these people can't even be prescribed by a GP.

So when should we get in contact with our GPs?

noplacehere

ddarcy wrote: »

Group 4 has already begun. I’m supposed to be 7, but I think doctors have moved everyone from 7 to 4 or so it seems. HSE removed any guidelines that define high risk, so they might as well have said group 7 is 4 now! I had my first dose last Monday and the nurse mentioned that it seemed like all the diabetics got called in on the same day! Obviously depends where you are, but looks like there are multiple areas where this has happened.

Not everyone. My consultant said I wouldn’t qualify under asthma anymore for group 4 but as it happens I do under BMI. My mothers consultant says she’s not group 4 as even though she’s autoimmune the drugs don’t match the restricted list sent to them for group 4