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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Amirani

washman3 wrote: »

No, this is not a joke. 6 SECOND doses were administered last Sunday.
That's the official figure from Fergal Bowers.

Fergal Bowers doesn't work for the Department of Health or the HSE, so him saying something doesn't make it the official figure.

The HSE have already said that the number on the dashboard is not accurate. You should stop treating Fergal Bowers as an official source of health data.

Apogee

Fitz* wrote: »

Eventually, a day with some decent-ish numbers. Which while being excellent, it is still a step in the right direction.

Is that our highest daily number of doses administered?

Not quite (though it will likely be updated).

Apogee

Tue 23rd - 18751 administered. Just gone over 700,000 total doses administered.

Fitz*

Eventually, a day with some decent-ish numbers. Which while being excellent, it is still a step in the right direction.

Is that our highest daily number of doses administered?

hynesie08

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1375397621905391617?s=20

That's what you like to see.

Azatadine

This is good. Note the SA variant reference too.

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1375357516754862080?s=19

is_that_so

VonLuck wrote: »

The last one is the only relevant one really. Not likely at all, but at least wait until all the facts are out before pointing fingers.

Facts bad, finger pointing good!

VonLuck

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah sure it's not a big deal really.
Won't make a big difference to the overall rollout.
HSE are doing a great job.
Sure they couldn't have known they'd have 20 left.
Those teachers happened to be walking past just as the vaccines were about to go off.
Everyone involved has unimpeachable integrity.
Maybe the teachers were all over 70, we don't have enough info yet.

etc., etc.

The last one is the only relevant one really. Not likely at all, but at least wait until all the facts are out before pointing fingers.

is_that_so

astrofool wrote: »

If true, anyone who is involved should lose their positions.

Yeah, some summary executions too and a public enquiry on top of it. One thing that COVID has taught us is the art of permanent outrage.

eoinbn

JTMan wrote: »

Yeah, looks like both CureVac and Novavax will have little to no impact on vaccines for those aged 16+ in Ireland. Sad after much hope for these vaccines.

Also, it seems that neither are at an advanced stage of their children trials. So neither will probably be used for those aged under 15 either.

With J&J saying that their children trial will not be complete until September ... I guess we will be vaccinating children aged 12-15 with Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech in August and possibly those aged 6-11 with AZ/Oxford if we copy the UK approach.

Pfizer/BioNtech announced yesterday that they will begin trials on children and infants as young as 6 months. Moderna announced the same a few weeks back.

KrustyUCC - they are the same vaccines. The plan is to deliver in a batch of 10m in March and 6m in April but they might all slip into early April. Either way it will be a nice boost when they do arrive.

JTMan

eoinbn wrote: »

Curevac won't be that important in Ireland as most/all adults will have had 1 shot by the time it is here. .

Yeah, looks like both CureVac and Novavax will have little to no impact on vaccines for those aged 16+ in Ireland. Sad after much hope for these vaccines.

Also, it seems that neither are at an advanced stage of their children trials. So neither will probably be used for those aged under 15 either.

With J&J saying that their children trial will not be complete until September ... I guess we will be vaccinating children aged 12-15 with Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech in August and possibly those aged 6-11 with AZ/Oxford if we copy the UK approach.

KrustyUCC

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40251701.html

I wonder is that on top of the big delivery expected next week?

160,000 doses would be a huge help

astrofool

namloc1980 wrote: »

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If true, anyone who is involved should lose their positions.

[Deleted User]

Ah sure it's not a big deal really.
Won't make a big difference to the overall rollout.
HSE are doing a great job.
Sure they couldn't have known they'd have 20 left.
Those teachers happened to be walking past just as the vaccines were about to go off.
Everyone involved has unimpeachable integrity.
Maybe the teachers were all over 70, we don't have enough info yet.

etc., etc.

stephenjmcd

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Maybe I’m naive but there has to be more to it than we have heard? I don’t know what could explain it though.

Like how would a private hospital give doses to teachers in a school and think that in any way made sense or they would get away with it? It’s so ridiculous it’s hard to believe. If the hospital was doing that, you’d imagine they be dragging in family members first, so what else have they done?

Absolutely, how on earth they came to the conclusion will be an interesting explanation, if one is forthcoming, which you assume there'll have to be some sort of statement tomorrow. Either way it's not justifiable, the guidelines for spare doses are clear, even though their a private hospital, one would think someone would have had the cop on to think well maybe we should implement the same process as public hospitals for spare doses.

Van.Bosch

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Only 1 person can answer that unfortunately and that's the CEO of the Beacon

Maybe I’m naive but there has to be more to it than we have heard? I don’t know what could explain it though.

Like how would a private hospital give doses to teachers in a school and think that in any way made sense or they would get away with it? It’s so ridiculous it’s hard to believe. If the hospital was doing that, you’d imagine they be dragging in family members first, so what else have they done?

stephenjmcd

noplacehere wrote: »

I’m ****ing livid. My consultant was sending their VHR list which I’m on to the beacon. I haven’t been called yet. I would have been there at any time within half an hour. Wtf were they doing?

Only 1 person can answer that unfortunately and that's the CEO of the Beacon

noplacehere

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's a private hospital. They're given their own allocation of vaccines and run their own vaccination centre, they've used it to vaccinate private healthcare staff and its available as required to vaccinate HSE staff from the locality if requested.

What they Beacon did shouldn't have happened, there's clear guidelines for spare doses but at the end of the day they're outside HSE remit & not answerable to them

I’m ****ing livid. My consultant was sending their VHR list which I’m on to the beacon. I haven’t been called yet. I would have been there at any time within half an hour. Wtf were they doing?

stephenjmcd

Sofa King Great wrote: »

I see tomorrow's daily mail reporting that 20 teachers were given vaccines in the Beacon - just giving advanced warnings to all the HSE defenders so you can get your excuses ready

It's a private hospital. They're given their own allocation of vaccines and run their own vaccination centre, they've used it to vaccinate private healthcare staff and its available as required to vaccinate HSE staff from the locality if requested. Whether they had agreed to do public vaccinations I've not seen mentioned anywhere but they definitely were initially only doing the private healthcare staff and as an overflow for other Dublin hospitals to get their staff done.

What the Beacon did shouldn't have happened, we all know that, there's clear guidelines for spare doses but at the end of the day they're outside HSE remit & not answerable to them.

What's going to happen to them over it ? Probably absolutely nothing

Professor Moriarty

Sofa King Great wrote: »

They are using it as a vaccination centre

Ah right. So the HSE staff there were complicit in this?

Sofa King Great

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Isn't the Beacon a private hospital?

They are using it as a vaccination centre

Professor Moriarty

Sofa King Great wrote: »

I see tomorrow's daily mail reporting that 20 teachers were given vaccines in the Beacon - just giving advanced warnings to all the HSE defenders so you can get your excuses ready

Isn't the Beacon a private hospital?

Wolf359f

namloc1980 wrote: »

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I'm dying to hear their excuse. The cleaner threw out the standby list so we had to improvise.
Problem is there's no accountability, they could have been advertising for raffle tickets to be placed on a standby list and nothing would be done, especially with it being a private hospital, nobody would loose their job.

hynesie08

washman3 wrote: »

No, this is not a joke. 6 SECOND doses were administered last Sunday.
That's the official figure from Fergal Bowers.
A few well versed scribes/apologists on here are trying to justify otherwise by manipulating the figures but even if the true number turns out to be 6 dozen it is still a complete farce/joke to me and most rational people.
Just think about it, UK are doing 27 per second.!!!!

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1375114981004427264?s=20

The hse disagree with you but OK.

namloc1980

Sofa King Great

I see tomorrow's daily mail reporting that 20 teachers were given vaccines in the Beacon - just giving advanced warnings to all the HSE defenders so you can get your excuses ready

washman3

thebaz wrote: »

Sorry, is that a joke - we administered only 6 doses on Sunday ??

If not it's scandolous, given this is done by the unelected body controlling our lives , who have us in lockdown level 5 for nearly 12 months, and no real strategy to exit (except vaccinations).

No, this is not a joke. 6 SECOND doses were administered last Sunday.
That's the official figure from Fergal Bowers.
A few well versed scribes/apologists on here are trying to justify otherwise by manipulating the figures but even if the true number turns out to be 6 dozen it is still a complete farce/joke to me and most rational people.
Just think about it, UK are doing 27 per second.!!!!

Wolf359f

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fergal Bowers getting into the habit of posting fake news. Should really research the details before he posts tweets trying to stir ****.

That's old school journalism though, nowadays ya just retweet some unverified source as if it certified fact.
Or if you're having a lazy day and it's your turn on the mic, just ask the same question as someone before you, but apologize in advance if it's been already asked, so it sounds like you had that question before someone else.

hynesie08

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fergal Bowers getting into the habit of posting fake news. Should really research the details before he posts tweets trying to stir ****.

Chambers and reilly both discrediting the 6 number, then when bowers got called out "it's what the dashboard says"

Dope.

ACitizenErased

Fergal Bowers getting into the habit of posting fake news. Should really research the details before he posts tweets trying to stir ****.