john4321 wrote: » Again what's shambolic (chaotic, disorganized, or mismanaged) about the rollout apart from lack of supply? You cant distribute something you dont have.
votecounts wrote: » https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1374464917550469123 thought this would have been an issue earlier
Tenzor07 wrote: » Yeap, I'm sure the fortunate few are delighted they're vaccinated while everyone else isn't, that's a good feeling for them i'm sure to feel safe... Meanwhile 1000's of over 70's and 80's sit around waiting for that call from their Doctor which seems a very long time coming...maybe next month...Maybe..
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Lack of supply is shambolic.
namloc1980 wrote: » Zero chances of that.
john4321 wrote: » All reports I have read here of people being vaccinated have been positive.
john4321 wrote: » What has been shambolic about the rollout here so far? All reports I have read here of people being vaccinated have been positive. Lack of supply is not shambolic and using an article of people chancing their luck booking appointments in NI is not proof of anything apart from selfishness and stupidity.
Red Silurian wrote: » Chances are that in a few weeks time we will be able to fly to America and buy a vaccine in a pharmacy
Tenzor07 wrote: » A Very sad day when you see people who've completely lost faith in this Government and the shambolic vaccine rollout that they're so desperate to get the Vaccine they travel up North knowing the chances of getting the jab are little or none....https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0323/1205728-northern-ireland-vaccinations/
Melanchthon wrote: » It's likely to do with thishttps://nos.nl/artikel/2368414-deel-in-nederland-geproduceerde-vaccins-naar-vk-door-britse-afspraken.html You'l need to translate though. Also now I could be wrong here but didnt the way the EU contract refer to plants in Belgium and Germany? Anyway stealing this comment from Reddit.
is_that_so wrote: » They are not bullying anyone, they already know they'll be down 5m from India, they could be down a lot more from Halix. They also know that Halix will probably be approved for EU vaccine supplies on Thursday. I'd call it realpolitik - a solution where everybody wins a bit but nobody is fully happy. We'll just have to see how it pans out.
Micky 32 wrote: » Do you know something we don’t? Did you get some inside info? If so please share
funnydoggy wrote: » Go on, explain why
ArmaniJeanss wrote: » From memory most of the people who argued with you did so on the basis of whether or not it was a good idea, with most thinking it was good and you not approving of it. I don't recall many posters nailing their mast to the idea that it couldn't happen. So I'm not sure you can say you've been proved right.
correct horse battery staple wrote: » Russian science was good, in 90s anyone with half a brain left for the west. The educational system has also imploded and like everything in country is severely under funded. Russia today more resembles the more redneck parts of US with religion and nationalism and fascism all mixed in not the Russia of Soviet Union era where science was a good way to avoid being shipped off to Siberia, back then government could take everything from a person but they couldn’t have their mind, that’s why so many went into science, math and engineering back then. Russia is a shell of what it was a, it’s now a dystopian oligarchy which would make all those millions who spent their lives defending the motherland cry.
GazzaL wrote: » Many of the pro lockdown crowd are racist. They'd seemingly rather see Irish people die and destroy our society and economy before they'd consider Sputnik. I got a load of abuse from them when I said I shook hands with an Eastern European gypsy during the lockdown.
lawrencesummers wrote: » The vaccine works though. As much as you might not like the country the vaccine works.
IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: » 30m doses, blimey. Divided by population, that's a little over 300k for Ireland from AZ in the next week?
eoinbn wrote: » I love how the British government/media have been framing the story. The PM is willing to share the vaccines from the Netherlands with the EU. How nice of him.
astrofool wrote: » Especially as all the bluster about their self sourced supply has proven to be completely false. It can't sit well with the tory government that the vaccine "success" has been built on the back of EU graciousness towards them.
Halix is a subcontractor of AstraZeneca AB (EU) and AstraZeneca Plc (UK). I'll use a simple analogy. You buy a BMW. It has a transmission issue. You can't take ZF (who actually manufactured the gearbox) to court because you have no contractual relationship. You can take BMW to court because they're the ones you signed an agreement with when you got the car. Meaning that if Halix signed an agreement with Vaccitech and/or AstraZeneca Plc to provide vaccines or vaccine components to Vaccitech/AstraZeneca's customers (in this case the UK) on a first come/first serve basis and did so before the deal with AstraZeneca AB (which it did, since the UK agreement was in April, EU in December), then the EU has no legal standing to assert any claim against Halix, as they have no contractual relationship. The EU would have a claim against AstraZeneca AB (who they signed their agreement with), however because of the Commission's incompetence in drafting their contract that's dubious. This is universal in contract law.
GT89 wrote: » I said a while back that there may be coercion to get people to take the vaccine some people doubted my argument. Well I guess I have been proven right.https://twitter.com/shannoncarty3/status/1374290179956047875?s=19
