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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Russman

eagle eye wrote: »

What difference would it make to you getting it now? You still have to wear a mask, social distance, follow lockdown rules.

I’d feel like I’m way less likely to catch this disease and that I’m less likely to pass it to my elderly parents. Tbh mask wearing in the supermarket doesn’t really bother me at this stage. All in all I’d feel like we’re on the home stretch.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I understand this so I'm not particularly worried. If anything it just means countries can stockpile AZ/O until it is given the clear and then they can do mass vaccinations with it. But how long does it usually to take to determine causal links or not?

Are we definitely getting AZ deliveries into the country while the suspension is on going?

[Deleted User]

eagle eye wrote: »

What difference would it make to you getting it now? You still have to wear a mask, social distance, follow lockdown rules.

My parents will also be vaccinated and we'll be fine with taking the vanishingly small chance that 1) I didn't have a full-on immune response, 2) I then caught the virus, 3) it multiplied enough without giving me symptoms to make me infectious and 4) that they also didn't get a proper immune response from the vaccine and will catch it.

Give each of those a 1-in-5 chance and you've a 1-in-625 chance. We'll take it.

*EDIT* I'd also get a few weekends in the UK in over the summer. They'll be flying by May and I wouldn't be surprised if their re-opening schedule is brought forward a few times.

Stheno

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I understand this so I'm not particularly worried. If anything it just means countries can stockpile AZ/O until it is given the clear and then they can do mass vaccinations with it. But how long does it usually to take to determine causal links or not?

NIAC said earlier it should be clear in a week

funnydoggy

eagle eye wrote: »

What difference would it make to you getting it now? You still have to wear a mask, social distance, follow lockdown rules.

It's the thought that they're about to get a high level of protection, and that they're out the other side of the tunnel. More will join them as time goes by but it must feel amazing knowing you're shielded PLUS you're on the home stretch

Scuid Mhór

Cork2021 wrote: »

Good thread here again. Like a few have said, AZ offered to me in the morning I’d be there in a flash!

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1371158484113371143?s=21

I understand this so I'm not particularly worried. If anything it just means countries can stockpile AZ/O until it is given the clear and then they can do mass vaccinations with it. But how long does it usually to take to determine causal links or not?

eagle eye

Russman wrote:

Honestly, if offered I think Iâ€™d take it tomorrow. Realistically itâ€™ll be July or august before Iâ€™m offered anything so I wonâ€™t actually have to choose, but yeah, I think I would.

What difference would it make to you getting it now? You still have to wear a mask, social distance, follow lockdown rules.

Cork2021

rm212 wrote: »

Very frustrating... was due to get my AZ vaccine tomorrow and appointment has been cancelled now. Definitely an overreaction.

It is and hopefully by some next weekend it’ll be back on track and with Pfizer upping deliveries Q2 will be massive!

rm212

Very frustrating... was due to get my AZ vaccine tomorrow and appointment has been cancelled now. Definitely an overreaction.

Cork2021

Good thread here again. Like a few have said, AZ offered to me in the morning I’d be there in a flash!

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1371158484113371143?s=21

[Deleted User]

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Absolutely not, the men aren't affected so it's not cared about.

Issue is the opposite tbh. Point out the potential issues and I'm told I'm a man so shut up. When HRT was shown to increase the rate of cancer hugely women complained they weren't being given a "choice". I'm sure the same women would be first in line to sue if it went wrong and claim that the fact they were allowed to take it was because they were women.

funnydoggy

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Do we have any idea for the timeline of when this nonsense suspension may be lifted? When do they think a conclusion will be reached?

ASAP hopefully. More deaths need to be prevented.

Martina1991

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Of course and Aspirin, Paracetamol, Alcohol, Fatty foods and peanuts. All know killers.

...that poster mentioned birth control because they increase the risk of developing blood clots.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Do we have any idea for the timeline of when this nonsense suspension may be lifted? When do they think a conclusion will be reached?

ujjjjjjjjj

Deleted User wrote: »

As I've seen said elsewhere I assume they'll be stopping the dispensary of the contraceptive pill and implants from tomorrow morning as well?

Of course and Aspirin, Paracetamol, Alcohol, Fatty foods and peanuts. All know killers.

ACitizenErased

Marhay70 wrote: »

Why belittle a man (woman) just because you don't like what they say?

To paraphrase Voltaire, "I don't like what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"

“I think neither are a risk to me”
When people want to talk about COVID in such a selfish manner they’re a certain type of person

Dressoutlet

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As I've seen said elsewhere I assume they'll be stopping the dispensary of the contraceptive pill and implants from tomorrow morning as well?

Absolutely not, the men aren't affected so it's not cared about.

[Deleted User]

As I've seen said elsewhere I assume they'll be stopping the dispensary of the contraceptive pill and implants from tomorrow morning as well?

funnydoggy

The incidence is so low that even if we weren't told which vaccine we got in our arm, we wouldn't know the difference.

Russman

eagle eye wrote: »

Before the investigation?
I think it'd make sense to wait.

Honestly, if offered I think I’d take it tomorrow. Realistically it’ll be July or august before I’m offered anything so I won’t actually have to choose, but yeah, I think I would.

[Deleted User]

10 million Brits have had it without incident. My dad's from the North so I would just hope that would give me enough magical immunity to the horrific side effects that others seem to be getting.

Marhay70

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ah you’re one of those

Why belittle a man (woman) just because you don't like what they say?

To paraphrase Voltaire, "I don't like what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"

eagle eye

Russman wrote: »

Yep, I think they do need to investigate the issue, but I’d take it without a second thought if offered it.

Before the investigation?
I think it'd make sense to wait.

Russman

Deleted User wrote: »

If it was through the books and I got a cert etc. confirming it I'd pay 500 quid without much grumbling now.

Yep, I think they do need to investigate the issue, but I’d take it without a second thought if offered it.

[Deleted User]

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d take it in the morning tbh

If it was through the books and I got a cert etc. confirming it I'd pay 500 quid without much grumbling now.

Sweet.Science

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ah you’re one of those

One of what ?

ACitizenErased

Sweet.Science wrote: »

I think neither are a risk to me . So no point voluntarily taking the AZ vaccine if offered . I'd decline . Unsure about the rest of them I'll decide closer to the time . Each to their own though .

Ah you’re one of those

Sweet.Science

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Because if you think the chances of dying or being ill from the AZ vaccine are higher than that of COVID you probably need to do some reading

I think neither are a risk to me . So no point voluntarily taking the AZ vaccine if offered . I'd decline . Unsure about the rest of them I'll decide closer to the time . Each to their own though .

ACitizenErased

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Why ?

Because if you think the chances of dying or being ill from the AZ vaccine are higher than that of COVID you probably need to do some reading

Melanchthon

Del Griffith wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Coronavirusgoo1/status/1371062416390361088?s=19

Yeah I don't really believe there is a serious issue here unless it's with one batch.
The Astra shot has been administered to a huge amount of people in the UK often via GP's, GP's tend to know their patients and they do talk to each other.