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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Oranage2

Stark wrote: »

Unfortunately true. I saw Staines gloating with delight on Twitter last week because a few nursing home residents died from Covid a couple of days after getting their first vaccine dose. Like "hooray, the vaccines don't work, we'll need to do ZeroCovid instead".

Similar from both sides, as soon as a case pops up in new Zealand the other side are saying 'see zerocovid doesn't work'

Micky 32

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1370901316978028545?s=21

Impressive for the USA, 4.6m vaccinations in one day. If they kept that up they’d have their population vaccinated in 10ish weeks.

Vicxas

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1370901316978028545?s=21

Impressive for the USA, 4.6m vaccinations in one day. If they kept that up they’d have their population vaccinated in 10ish weeks.

Sure they won't need the AZ vaccine at this rate

brickster69

You stay away for 16 hours and come back and surprise surprise. More bad news about AZ, there was one coming out of Italy the other day. The Italian military are refusing it now because some of them never felt well the next day. That is the army for God's sake.

brickster69

Leftwaffe wrote: »

https://twitter.com/martin_moder/status/1371033872046166025?s=21

UK stats:

13 cases of blood clots with AZ.

15 with Pfizer/BioNtech.

No chance of Pfizer being stopped. If people were growing an extra arm from the top of the head it would be grand.

Amirani

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1370901316978028545?s=21

Impressive for the USA, 4.6m vaccinations in one day. If they kept that up they’d have their population vaccinated in 10ish weeks.

There was a change in methodology the resulted in some of Sunday's doses being counted.

True number for Saturday was about 2.98m, which is still incredibly impressive (nearly 1.5% of their adult population).

is_that_so

Oranage2 wrote: »

Similar from both sides, as soon as a case pops up in new Zealand the other side are saying 'see zerocovid doesn't work'

It's not that it doesn't work but it's a very difficult strategy to implement and there are no guarantees to it. It's a whole lot easier being isolated like them. You could almost imagine the Irish reaction to lockdown number 28 for a single case!

BrianD3

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

Mod

If it is on Twitter, it should be easy to prove.

Otherwise it is trolling to claim anyone is gloating over people dying.

Which is it?

Dunno about gloating but he definitely tried to use the deaths to push Zero Covid

https://twitter.com/astaines/status/1370407753085227008

Stark

Clicking through to the article says that all deaths happened within a few days of the first dose, too soon for the vaccine to work. And he's qualified enough to know that, just chose not to mention that part.

Deeper Blue

Stark wrote: »

Clicking through to the article says that all deaths happened within a few days of the first dose, too soon for the vaccine to work. And he's qualified enough to know that, just chose not to mention that part.

Sure why let facts get in the way of one's agenda?

Micky 32

Stark wrote: »

Clicking through to the article says that all deaths happened within a few days of the first dose, too soon for the vaccine to work. And he's qualified enough to know that, just chose not to mention that part.

That’s what you’re up against. Even certain posters have used this article but fail to mention the jabs were only just administered. People will use anything to promote their desperate agenda.

Turtwig

Stark wrote: »

Clicking through to the article says that all deaths happened within a few days of the first dose, too soon for the vaccine to work. And he's qualified enough to know that, just chose not to mention that part.

You claimed he was gloating with delight though. That tweet is not gloating with delight at someone's death.

Are you going to retract that remark?

Klonker

Vicxas wrote: »

Sure they won't need the AZ vaccine at this rate

I don't think they will use AZ vaccine at all over there, they're just stockpiling it as a fallback incase their other supplies fall short. Hopefully they'll let AZ ship them to the EU like asked. If the Trump administration did this there would be people losing their minds about it

Stark

Turtwig wrote: »

You claimed he was gloating though. That tweet is not gloating at someone's death.

Are you going to retract that remark?

Yeah fine I'll retract the gloating at the deaths bit.

coconnellz

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This is no criticism of the home but I'd have hit the phone assuming the boxes had another homes name on them and arrange a pick up so it didn't go to waste.

Yeah the home at fault the management In the place is absolutely useless would make government look great in comparison, there was enough vaccines for 30 residents totally wasted!

Sweet.Science

If for some reason I needed to get a covid vaccine I think AZ would be last on my list

Too much smoke now about it

ACitizenErased

Sweet.Science wrote: »

If for some reason I needed to get a covid vaccine I think AZ would be last on my list

Too much smoke now about it

I’d take it in the morning tbh

Probes

BrianD3 wrote: »

Dunno about gloating but he definitely tried to use the deaths to push Zero Covid

https://twitter.com/astaines/status/1370407753085227008

Just out of interest, what should he be using to push zero covid? Surely it's the whole point, deaths can be avoided with zero covid. He's done nothing wrong here at all.

JTMan

Italy's Piedmont region has temporarily suspended AstraZeneca shots joining Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Ireland in suspending the use of the vaccine.

Hopefully the results of the investigation into the Norway deaths is published urgently over the coming days.

stephenjmcd

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d take it in the morning tbh

Tell me when and where and I'll be rolling up my sleeve

mick087

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d take it in the morning tbh

I could be at my Drs surgery within 5 minutes if i was asked to come in today for the AZ jab.

is_that_so

Probes wrote: »

Just out of interest, what should he be using to push zero covid? Surely it's the whole point, deaths can be avoided with zero covid. He's done nothing wrong here at all.

They never articulate just how they are going to guarantee the outcome let alone how they propose to keep everyone locked up for another six months. It's way too late to change strategies now.

fits

I’d take it too.

Wolf359f

mick087 wrote: »

I could be at my Drs surgery within 5 minutes if the i was asked to come in today for the AZ jab.

I can see the surgery from my window. I'd be there in less than a minute if I was offered the AZ jab!
I don't think it would effect my confidence in AZ. But obviously the deaths need to be investigated.

Sweet.Science

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d take it in the morning tbh

Depends how desperate people are for immunity .

is_that_so

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Depends how desperate people are for immunity .

The first aim is the elimination of the risk of serious disease. If you get a "head cold" there's no issue.

MerlinSouthDub

No specific numbers, but this article suggest Pfizer will be delivering more volume to the EU than planned and will make up for Astra supply issues

https://www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSKBN2B60A7

is_that_so

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

No specific numbers, but this article suggest Pfizer will be delivering more volume to the EU than planned and will make up for Astra supply issues

https://www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSKBN2B60A7

Mad how positive people suddenly are about big pharma! It helps when a company knows what they are doing!

stephenjmcd

NI asked MHRA for an update given the suspension here.

MHRA statement
"We are aware of the action in Ireland. We are closely reviewing reports but given the large number of doses administered, and the frequency at which blood clots can occur naturally the evidence available does not suggest the vaccine is the cause."

Del Griffith

https://twitter.com/Coronavirusgoo1/status/1371062416390361088?s=19