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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Danzy

Cork2021 wrote: »

The UK has administered millions of AZ and not a dicky bird from them in terms of blood clots or reactions!
The EU and other ie Norway have damaged the programme by being over reactionary. Norway did something similar with Pfizer vaccine!

Vaccine skepticism is more the norm in continental Europe.

Long before Covid.

Monster249

irishgeo wrote: »

can you imagine the outrage if we carried on and then it became an issue. People saying it's the government fault etc they should have stopped. More HSE **** ups etc.

moan moan moan.

The UK data would show there isn't an issue, we can't suspend medicine that's supposed to pull out country out of lockdown based on minute concerns. We don't have that luxury anymore.

Cork2021

Ah I see one poster thinks the UK just want to show us all the finger whilst endangering their whole population! The lockdown is the only way it seems according to this! What a load of bollix! All of the lockdown fantasists need to do one! It’s ye and ye alone that’ll keep this dragging on. I’m in no doubt when that alert popped up on your phone that you smiled and said yesss that’s at least another few months of self indulged solitude!

scooby77

I'll take any spare AZ vaccine going. (Though I'll probably take aspirin for a day or 2 before and after, as I would for a long haul flight. Though say chances of a DVT clot on a flight far higher!)
Whether a link exists between clotting and AZ or not, I do fear, as others have said, that it will undermine public confidence in that vaccine. We really dont need that now.

noplacehere

This is my happy place thread. This has been a tougher week even on here and this is just the literal icing on the cake. I’m very high risk and was being put on a list. Now... well who knows

Godot.

Some computer-says-no jobsworth twat has a salary to justify. This will be rescinded sharpish (if it happens) because the backlash will be huge.

ACitizenErased

I feel like this is a complete overreaction tbh

Monster249

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I feel like this is a complete overreaction tbh

It is.

Amirani

Monster249 wrote: »

This is just not good enough. When you put all your eggs in one basket and the basket starts to fall apart.

We're going to be in level 5 until f*cling August.

Astra Zeneca is 19% of our vaccination program, Pfizer is 78%.

Not sure you understand the "all your eggs in one basket" analogy that you've used.

Test For Echo

I've had a first dose of AZ. I'll be at work tomorrow listening to 2 anti Covid vaccine colleagues who refused to get vaccinated. Can't wait. Just the ammo these clowns needed.

Sweet.Science

Is this just in ireland is has been suspended or everywhere ?

dominatinMC

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I feel like this is a complete overreaction tbh

If we think it's an overreaction now, wait until the papers are printed tomorrow. Claire Byrne et al. must be salivating at the thought. Perfect mother's Day gift for her

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Godot. wrote: »

Some computer-says-no jobsworth twat has a salary to justify. This will be rescinded sharpish (if it happens) because the backlash will be huge.

I give it 24 hrs before they U-Turn if the suspension goes through.

ACitizenErased

Be very surprised if this doesnt turn out to be a batch issue. The UK would been ****ed if it wasn’t, but they aren’t.

astrofool

Test For Echo wrote: »

I've had a first dose of AZ. I'll be at work tomorrow listening to 2 anti Covid vaccine colleagues who refused to get vaccinated. Can't wait. Just the ammo these clowns needed.

Just rest easy in the knowledge that you factually are more intelligent than those colleagues.

Mrs OBumble

Test For Echo wrote: »

I've had a first dose of AZ. I'll be at work tomorrow listening to 2 anti Covid vaccine colleagues who refused to get vaccinated. Can't wait. Just the ammo these clowns needed.

Not sure that vaccination is a safe topic for workplace conversations.

Personally I suspect this suspension is a drug price or supply negotiation step, rather than a genuine clinical one.

Klonker

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I feel like this is a complete overreaction tbh

I thought that at first but the more I read about Norway I think its the appropriate step. It doesn't sound great to be honest.

Hopefully the can rule out the AZ vaccine as a cause and we can get up and running with it again.

https://www.fhi.no/en/news/2021/norwegian-medicines-agency-notified-of-blood-clots-and-bleeding-in-younger-/

Dressoutlet

Test For Echo wrote: »

I've had a first dose of AZ. I'll be at work tomorrow listening to 2 anti Covid vaccine colleagues who refused to get vaccinated. Can't wait. Just the ammo these clowns needed.

Tell them the clots happened within hours of receiving the vaccine, and ask how many they know who got the vaccine and how many of them had blood clots. Shut them up.

blackcard

is_that_so wrote: »

Why?

Your figures just don't add up

Klonker

How many doses of AZ have been administered here so far? I assume we've had no serious issues as we'd of heard of this was the case.

Gael23

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Be very surprised if this doesnt turn out to be a batch issue. The UK would been ****ed if it wasn’t, but they aren’t.

If it does it doesn’t instil confidence in AZ

ACitizenErased

I thought we approved vaccines based on the risk of COVID being greater than any potential vaccine side effects? This is a complete kick in the face to that principle

breezy1985

Test For Echo wrote: »

I've had a first dose of AZ. I'll be at work tomorrow listening to 2 anti Covid vaccine colleagues who refused to get vaccinated. Can't wait. Just the ammo these clowns needed.

Also any dramaqueens who took it and got a sore arm is gonna be telling you they got blood clots same as all the people who are sure they had Covid in Ireland in 2019

fits

Klonker wrote: »

I thought that at first but the more I read about Norway I think its the appropriate step. It doesn't sound great to be honest.

Hopefully the can rule out the AZ vaccine as a cause and we can get up and running with it again.

https://www.fhi.no/en/news/2021/norwegian-medicines-agency-notified-of-blood-clots-and-bleeding-in-younger-/

Thanks for that link. Definitely needs to be looked into alright.

stephenjmcd

Klonker wrote: »

How many doses of AZ have been administered here so far? I assume we've had no serious issues as we'd of heard of this was the case.

As of Wednesday 109k

In the EU as of Tuesday there had been 3 million doses of AZ administered & 22 reports of thromboembolic events

Sweet.Science

What was the point of clinical trials ?? A vaccine is either safe after going through them or it isn't

is_that_so

blackcard wrote: »

Your figures just don't add up

Get onto the government so. I didn't say 60%, I said about!

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/dd66b-statement-on-covid-19-vaccine-supplies/

astrofool

Just before people start going crazy. What has been seen is a higher incidence than normal of an ailment after a vaccine was taken. These events will also have been happening in the UK but not concerning as they are events that happen all the time. The data will be analysed to see if there is a pattern and if not, vaccination will continue with AZ. If there is a pattern, then guidance around who can take AZ may change.

These patterns happen all the time with all medicines, this is not politically driven, but it does show the importance to always follow procedure and guidelines for medicines.

This is all a normal part of the process with any medicine, and there are procedures in place to handle it, so don't worry, and it's likely that AZ vaccinations will continue later this week, and as we are supply constrained anyway, this won't really have much of an effect on vaccine rollout.

Marhay70

From recollection, at least one person died after receiving the Pfizer vaccine during trials and I know the J&J trial was suspended when people became ill. As far as I know none of these incidents was linked to the vaccines and these vaccines are now reckoned to be the be-all and end all of vaccines. So why, all of a sudden. is everybody so convinced that AZ is the witches' brew after a few anomalies? At least wait until the enquiries have been completed before conceding defeat.

stephenjmcd

Klonker wrote: »

I thought that at first but the more I read about Norway I think its the appropriate step. It doesn't sound great to be honest.

Hopefully the can rule out the AZ vaccine as a cause and we can get up and running with it again.

https://www.fhi.no/en/news/2021/norwegian-medicines-agency-notified-of-blood-clots-and-bleeding-in-younger-/

A few initial details I'd like to see added to this by Norway.

Were the People impacted administered from same batch ?
Any issues by region, can they link the people to the same vacincation centre for example.
Were they given the correct dose ?
Underlying conditions and or link with any medication

Hopefully all being gathered as we speak but I really don't see the suspension lasting all that long