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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Gael23

salmocab wrote: »

There could be a major issue with people just not wanting AZ. Nothing can get this much press and not lose people’s faith. Even if research says it’s fine and unrelated people are going to be very suspicious of it.

Agreed, I certainly don’t want it

Sofa King Great

The reliance on vaccines to get us out of this is really starting to back fire.

We need a multi faceted approach - more investment in track and trace, measurable milestones to reduce restrictions, proper enforcement of major restriction breaches

is_that_so

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

That’s all housebound people who were to be vaccinated by the ambulance service in limbo now.

I was just waiting for the call from HSE to say they’d be calling on X date to vaccinate my 82 year old dad

newuser99999 wrote: »

What happens if you have already had one shot of AZ?

I think people need to wait, calmly if possible, to see what NIAC say later.

LuckyLloyd

Cork2021 wrote: »

Ah stop will you! EMA already said it’s nothing out the ordinary in terms of incidence of blood clots within a population!

This could be a batches issue.
The EMA are talking about statistical deviations at a high level. This is about a pattern that is being spotted on the ground and it warrants investigation.

Hopefully there is no causation demonstrated and vaccination can continue in confidence.

newuser99999

What happens if you have already had one shot of AZ?

[Deleted User]

Cork2021 wrote: »

For fûck sake!!!
Suspending AZ here now as well!

That’s all housebound people who were to be vaccinated by the ambulance service in limbo now.

I was just waiting for the call from HSE to say they’d be calling on X date to vaccinate my 82 year old dad

Dressoutlet

CWF wrote: »

Anyone know what will happen for people booked in for AZ vaccine tomorrow?

I'm willing to pretend to be someone and take the AZ vaccine if you know anyone.

Happydays2020

Leftwaffe wrote: »

How many doses of AZ have been administered world wide so far? There’s been about 10 cases of clotting and 10s of millions of doses given out?

Surely this is a non-story. Has to be investigated I know but when the WHO and EMA say to plough on, surely it’s safe to do so.

True but how many people will be wary of flying on a Boeing 737 Max....

There has been a lot of negative publicity for AZ - will be a hard sell on multiple grounds now.

is_that_so

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Every 47 seconds (or thereabouts) a person in the western world dies from a blood clot. This is ridiculous. So unless all the usual and extra are dying from clots there's no link.
And the media won't ****ing make a big song and dance when it's back to being used in 2 weeks..

It's a precautionary pause. There were a few of these during vaccine clinical trials while they investigated. NIAC are meeting this morning to discuss it so we can probably expect more news later.

fits

CWF wrote: »

Anyone know what will happen for people booked in for AZ vaccine tomorrow?

Not going to get anything I’d say.

harr

Need to pull the plug on AZ completely and focus on coming up with a plan to purchase vaccine from elsewhere.
They have been a **** storm from the get go and the EU should have nothing more to do with them even when all this is over.
People won’t be confident now taking it so I can a lot of countries pulling the plug on using it.

Leftwaffe

How many doses of AZ have been administered world wide so far? There’s been about 10 cases of clotting and 10s of millions of doses given out?

Surely this is a non-story. Has to be investigated I know but when the WHO and EMA say to plough on, surely it’s safe to do so.

CWF

Anyone know what will happen for people booked in for AZ vaccine tomorrow?

malinheader

Morries Wigs wrote: »

gonna put off loads from taking it -would ya blame them

Not one bit. Breaking news on RTE, this will turn alot of people from getting vaccinated. Turning into one hell of a siht show.

Van.Bosch

Cork2021 wrote: »

Ah stop will you! EMA already said it’s nothing out the ordinary in terms of incidence of blood clots within a population!

New info last night apparently from Norway

Cork2021

malinheader wrote: »

Over reaction maybe, but only going to make it harder to convince people to get the vaccine.

Exactly, we’ll struggle to get to the 80% vaccinated at this stage especially if people are unwilling to take the AZ vaccine! Continuing negative reports daily on it has damaged it big time but nobody is giving the real facts. Level 5 indefinitely

Dressoutlet

Every 47 seconds (or thereabouts) a person in the western world dies from a blood clot. This is ridiculous. So unless all the usual and extra are dying from clots there's no link.
And the media won't ****ing make a big song and dance when it's back to being used in 2 weeks..

Morries Wigs

gonna put off loads from taking it -would ya blame them

Cushtie

AZ seems to turn into a **** show with every passing day.

No smoke without fire as they say. Doesn't instill confidence in the Vaccine at all. Hopefully can be identified as dodgy batch. But even that isn't great for confidence in the manufacturing process.

Cork2021

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I’m sorry now, but each of these blood clot reports need to be examined and ruled out as being caused directly by the vaccine. To not do so would be negligent.

Ah stop will you! EMA already said it’s nothing out the ordinary in terms of incidence of blood clots within a population!

malinheader

Cork2021 wrote: »

The EMA and WHO have said to continue using it! Over reaction more like!

Over reaction maybe, but only going to make it harder to convince people to get the vaccine.

salmocab

There could be a major issue with people just not wanting AZ. Nothing can get this much press and not lose people’s faith. Even if research says it’s fine and unrelated people are going to be very suspicious of it.

Cork2021

The UK has administered millions of AZ and not a dicky bird from them in terms of blood clots or reactions!
The EU and other ie Norway have damaged the programme by being over reactionary. Norway did something similar with Pfizer vaccine!

LuckyLloyd

Cork2021 wrote: »

The EMA and WHO have said to continue using it! Over reaction more like!

I’m sorry now, but each of these blood clot reports need to be examined and ruled out as being caused directly by the vaccine. To not do so would be negligent.

is_that_so

Morries Wigs wrote: »

NIAC is to recommend suspension of AZ vaccine following further blood clot reports

Yeah, that's not a story that makes the one you dislike clickbait. It's a temporary pause on using supplies we have.

Cork2021

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

It’s the right decision. This is how the process is supposed to work. Oversight and caution.

The EMA and WHO have said to continue using it! Over reaction more like!

Morries Wigs

is_that_so wrote: »

"Poster disputes article content so makes inane comment about it shocker!"

Why don't you provide the evidence which allowed you to reach this genius insight, so?

NIAC is to recommend suspension of AZ vaccine following further blood clot reports

Gael23

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

It’s the right decision. This is how the process is supposed to work. Oversight and caution.

While we languish under level 5 restrictions

giveitholly

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1371026094057476097?s=19

Gael23

NIAC is to recommend suspension of AZ vaccine following further blood clot reports