brickster69 wrote: » Interesting that the main AZ plant in the EU is still waiting on approval to be able to supply EU countrieshttps://www.politico.eu/article/breton-no-astrazeneca-jabs-exported-from-netherlands-after-eu-export-controls/ “The Dutch factory, run by subcontractor Halix, is yet to receive EU regulatory approval to supply the region even though it was named in the deal signed between AstraZeneca and the European Commission in August.”https://www.ft.com/content/8e2e994e-9750-4de1-9cbc-31becd2ae0a8
Wolf359f wrote: » I'm not sure what your first link relates to? Second link hits a paywall.
brickster69 wrote: » Well just pay 5 euros for a month.
Wolf359f wrote: » And the first link's relevance?
brickster69 wrote: » Basically it says the factory named in the contract is still waiting on EMA approval to make make vaccines in the EU. When was the contract signed ?
Wolf359f wrote: » Gimme a link to the contract and I'll let ya know the date.
brickster69 wrote: » August 2020 was it not ?
Wolf359f wrote: » Was a day before the UK, I know that much. So that contract lists Halix as a production plant?
brickster69 wrote: » EU have f#cked up big style. That is why they are running around like headless chickens blaming everyone else.
Wolf359f wrote: » Well without providing the contracts you're basing your assumptions on. From reading the only link I could without paying to see it. Looks like AZ designated a plant in the EU to make the vaccine for the UK. Once the export licences came in, they stopped shipping to the UK and filed for EMA approval for that plant to be added to the EU production. Which was not in August 2020 as the export licencing came about in February. My take on it anyway.
brickster69 wrote: » Yes the Eu factories could produce for the UK because they were part of AZ supply chain. But they could not make vaccines for the EU because they had not been given approval to manufacture vaccines. Well not up until 15 th of Feb that is. So if they cannot make it how are they going to deliver it ?
mightyreds wrote: » Some good news today my aunt who is a HCW and fully vaccinated has had her husband and daughter test positive for covid while she remained negative. Good to see it working.
The Floyd p wrote: » Would it not be the case that as the USA has fewer people to vaccine, that they'd eventually start to get the J&J etc exported to the EU? In that case with May/June targeted for USA adults, that could allow us to benefit from excess.
Wolf359f wrote: » The US have administered 98.2 doses, so only 394mil to go. They are far from finished.
The Floyd p wrote: » Yeah but give it 2/3 months we'll not nearly be finished, but they would have the capacity to overproduce, leading to an excess?
Wolf359f wrote: » 2/3 months we'll be in a different position also. Besides, I don't know about excess vaccines produced in America. Are they belonging to the US government or will they just stop taking deliveries and rescind the export ban. One option leaves companies with contracts to fill, the other means the US can donate vaccines to those most in need.
Melanchthon wrote: » Politically wouldn't it make sense for Biden to help sort Mexico and Latin America and maybe the Caribbean to keep democratic voters happy and sort Canada out too because of the border?
marno21 wrote: » Up to 101m doses today with 2.9m done today. They are schooling the rest of the world.
is_that_so wrote: » In distribution yes, in vaccine nationalism not so much. They are sitting on tens of millions of US-manufactured AZ doses, so that they can fire it out quickly if authorized. AZ haven't even applied to the FDA for authorization. Both AZ and J&J have asked them to loan the EU doses. They may also end up not using much AZ anyway.
chrisbonnie wrote: » As much as I'd like the yanks to send us a few vocals. If you where Biden, looking at how untrustworthy AZ are with their delivery dates to the EU, would you send over your stock and trust they'd be topped up again? I wouldnt
is_that_so wrote: » Yeah, there is debate in the administration about what to do. Politically it's the right call to fulfil the Biden promise of May 1 but morally and ethically they are on a bit of a sticky wicket. It's less about topups as they have the capacity to produce enormous quantities, it's the fear of something shutting down the process.
chrisbonnie wrote: » I hate to admit it, but you need to look after your own house first.... Unfortunately..... But it seems the EU have naively thought we'd all help each other. Which in all honesty, that was never going to be the case.
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