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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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odyssey06

braychelsea wrote: »

Never said it was a positive or that AZ wasn't effective. All vaccines seems to eradicate death/hospitalisation. Just that more people will receive a vaccine with higher efficacy which will lead to less transmission long-term. Pfizer prevents transmission by 94% compare to AZ at ~ 50%.

Can you provide sources for these claims?

Pfizer is not 94% effective at preventing transmisison.
That figure relates to asymptomatic cases only.

Pete_Cavan

Apogee wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1370422008320778248

Not unreasonable to think we might have passed the 600k doses mark today.

irishlad.

1 in 5 over 70's have now received one dose

1 in 16,000 have received a second, lucky them!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit?usp=sharing

Stark

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1370401771592544259?s=19

Can anyone find confirmation of EU 100 million doses order? I've been searching for it but any links I can find refer to the commission still faffing about with the order.

titan18

My brother, 25 with no underlying conditions, is getting it in the US next week. Shows how far ahead of us they are.

Martina1991

RavenBea17b wrote: »

All,
Does anyone have a link/source that looks at each countries geo sequence for covid variant, capabilities, current rate of sequencing, plus plan to increase variant awareness, so adjusting vaccines etc.

I guess it everywhere will be ramping up. How much is carried out in Ireland do we know ?
With the first Danish variant (in mink) then Kent, South Africa, Brasil, Californian, NYC etc, it will be important step in developing adjusting testing and vaccines.

Apogee wrote: »

15% of samples are being sequenced:
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1366789094924300288
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1367177933874421767

https://covariants.org/per-country

Genome sequencing is something that can be done in hospitals labs around the country too, not just the NVRL.

It would not be very expensive either as it can be added on to the existing PCR platforms that are already in place.

Investing in laboratory diagnostics nationwide would be a huge advantage, not just for covid19 but for the future.

The powers that be have overlooked this for years. Hopefully it's time for things to change.

astrofool

Stark wrote: »

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1370401771592544259?s=19

Can anyone find confirmation of EU 100 million doses order? I've been searching for it but any links I can find refer to the commission still faffing about with the order.

I don't think it's been officially announced, but they were about to announce a 100M order with option for 100M more in January, so it sounds like something's been done behind the scenes, but isn't in the public domain yet.

Rebelbrowser

odyssey06 wrote: »

Can you provide sources for these claims?

Pfizer is not 94% effective at preventing transmisison.
That figure relates to asymptomatic cases only.

It's even higher. 97% for symptomatic and 94% for asymptomatic so a blended rate of 95%+. Source was the huge real life data from Israel yesterday. It was March data too so included the variants now prevalent in Israel. This is why I was extolling the virtues of Pfizer vaccine earlier. It does look like it is the best. Doesn't mean I wouldn't happily take AZ if offered it tomorrow of course.....

Brekrek

MM holding talks with the CEO of AZ

What the fuk is that all about ?

blackcard

So according to the Vaccine Calculator, I should get my second vaccine dose sometime between November 2021 and April 2022. Very disappointed , thought I would get it much sooner

Stheno

Brekrek wrote: »

MM holding talks with the CEO of AZ

What the fuk is that all about ?

Optics

Rebelbrowser

Brekrek wrote: »

MM holding talks with the CEO of AZ

What the fuk is that all about ?

Could be about MM helping AZ to get US warehoused vaccine released to Europe by raising it with Biden next week. By the time AZ gets approved in the US they may not need it as they have shed loads coming on stream.

stephenjmcd

blackcard wrote: »

So according to the Vaccine Calculator, I should get my second vaccine dose sometime between November 2021 and April 2022. Very disappointed , thought I would get it much sooner

Do people still actually believe that thing ?? It was basically branded as rubbish weeks ago.

WoollyRedHat

Actually MM is going to try and secure vaccines for the whole of Cork and then declare it a republic.

ACitizenErased

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Actually MM is going to try and secure vaccines for the whole of Cork and then declare it a republic.

we loathe for the day down here

Melanchthon

astrofool wrote: »

I don't think it's been officially announced, but they were about to announce a 100M order with option for 100M more in January, so it sounds like something's been done behind the scenes, but isn't in the public domain yet.

Yeah but a poster I was arguing on a separate thread basically 3 months ago at this stage was saying the deal was about to be signed.

Something has likely happened behind the scenes as I highlighted earlier in this thread.

Apart from India who may or may not have orders (seems to be varying reports nothing officially up on their own website) every other location with an production plant has an official order, they also have 60 to 110 million doses to places without production facilities (60 million to Oz and the Kiwi's who definitely don't have production, Canada order before seperate deal to build up production) which is relevant if there is doubts about ability of export from the EU.

stephenjmcd

Yeah we'll see.....

https://twitter.com/MaryERegan/status/1370495474654969863?s=19

iamwhoiam

Does anyone believe a single word from Astra Zenecas CEO ?

Stark

To be fair to MM, if they're willing to give the entire EU27 bloc the runaround, there's not much the leader of a small country can do. I feel almost bad for him sometimes when I see him being interviewed by RTE presenters who ask unintelligent questions and have obviously not done any research. I'm all for making politicians squirm with tough questions but repeating the same stupid question that's already been answered because you haven't done enough homework to move on with the questions is tiresome. I always imagine the things I'd like to say in his position but he obviously can't. Like "What's the point then of meeting the Astrazenaca CEO, Taoiseach?". "It's to humour you whingy ****ebags".

Klonker

Kind of old news by now. The US withholding Astra Zenica vaccines.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0312/1203515-coronavirus-global/

I find this a strange move. Its not likely to be approved until April plus I actually don't think there'll be a huge appetite by the public to take this vaccine over there, especially as they shouldn't have a shortage of other vaccines doses to use.

JRant

Martina1991 wrote: »

Genome sequencing is something that can be done in hospitals labs around the country too, not just the NVRL.

It would not be very expensive either as it can be added on to the existing PCR platforms that are already in place.

Investing in laboratory diagnostics nationwide would be a huge advantage, not just for covid19 but for the future.

The powers that be have overlooked this for years. Hopefully it's time for things to change.

In a few months all those labs currently doing COVID tests will be able to switch to other uses surely.

JP Liz V1

Klonker wrote: »

Kind of old news by now. The US withholding Astra Zenica vaccines.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0312/1203515-coronavirus-global/

I find this a strange move. Its not likely to be approved until April plus I actually don't think there'll be a huge appetite by the public to take this vaccine over there, especially as they shouldn't have a shortage of other vaccines doses to use.

Over blood clots linked to AstraZeneca jab?

Whitters22

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Over blood clots linked to AstraZeneca jab?

They are stockpiling it ahead of FDA approval next month. Nothing to do with that story which I'm fairly sure a link has yet to be substantiated anyway.

Klonker

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Over blood clots linked to AstraZeneca jab?

I don't think those stories will help but I think the US will have so many vaccines available that some may be willing to wait a little longer to get a vaccine with a slight better reputation (that was the case before the blood clot links which I think will be shown to be not an issue)

mightyreds

Some good news today my aunt who is a HCW and fully vaccinated has had her husband and daughter test positive for covid while she remained negative. Good to see it working.

Cork Lass

A few weeks ago I checked the calculator to see when i could expect to get my vaccine - it said June for the first dose. Just checked again and now it's saying I can expect to get my first dose in September/October. I'm so utterly p1ssed off now:eek:

Wolf359f

Cork Lass wrote: »

A few weeks ago I checked the calculator to see when i could expect to get my vaccine - it said June for the first dose. Just checked again and now it's saying I can expect to get my first dose in September/October. I'm so utterly p1ssed off now:eek:

Ignore that crap, I wouldn't believe any of those only calculators. People should know better.

stephenjmcd

Cork Lass wrote: »

A few weeks ago I checked the calculator to see when i could expect to get my vaccine - it said June for the first dose. Just checked again and now it's saying I can expect to get my first dose in September/October. I'm so utterly p1ssed off now:eek:

Again, that calculator is a load of rubbish

IRISHSPORTSGUY

UK planning 1m jabs a day from next week. They've tapped the Serum Institute of India.

nocoverart

Cork Lass wrote: »

A few weeks ago I checked the calculator to see when i could expect to get my vaccine - it said June for the first dose. Just checked again and now it's saying I can expect to get my first dose in September/October. I'm so utterly p1ssed off now:eek:

Like other posters have stated, it’s a load of bollox. You’d be better of using your time researching where to go on holidays when this crap is over.