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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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astrofool wrote: »

Because the UK is preventing AZ from fulfilling their supply to the EU, so the EU can, at any time, have Pfizer do the same to the UK.

but they aren't though. What makes you think they are?

The EU quite clearly asked for the initial doses to be made in the EU, so they were aware that UK factories were effectively out of scope. Why do you think they have dropped the rhetoric and resorted to just dropping little tit bits of information through "Leaks"?

astrofool wrote: »

As you have noted, you have been a complete hypocrite in saying that the UK is a company issue, yet the EU can't block a company, both can't be true, you can't speak out of both sides of the same face no matter how hard you try, the EU can put the same controls on Pfizer production as the UK has put on AZ (as witnessed by the blocking of EU produced AZ vaccine to Australia). The EU is playing nice, the UK is chest thumping after a horrendous response and a higher per capita death rate than other EU countries (only close to those who were hit first).

Nothing hypocritical about it at all.

The UK did a much better job of securing vaccine supply for it's citizens than the EU did.

Mainly because the UK treated this like a start up company, the EU trated it as an opportunity for a few politicians to be heros.

Hobgoblin11

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

What's going on with the waves? My understanding is we on these islands are in the midst of the third wave
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56359403

I think some countries have a different definition of a wave!

ACitizenErased

Wolf359f wrote: »

And you really believe that won't change by next week?
I'd say that will be revised down by the end of the week, if not the end of the day.

Who said that? The conference is on now, I'm posting info from the conference for people who aren't watching

Wolf359f

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Astrazeneca commitment as of this morning is 377,000 by end of quarter

And you really believe that won't change by next week?
I'd say that will be revised down by the end of the week, if not the end of the day.

ACitizenErased

Astrazeneca commitment as of this morning is 377,000 by end of quarter

lbj666

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Paul Reid has said the additional 40-50k Pfizer jabs for this quarter have us on track for just under 1.2 million

Hows is that even possible if its 85k next week and 1.5 weeks to go after that

eoinbn

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Paul Reid has said the additional 40-50k Pfizer jabs for this quarter have us on track for just under 1.2 million

On track? AZ need to magic up 25m doses for the EU in the space of a few weeks for us to hit that target. That seems far fetched given they haven't even provided 15m in the last month.

KrustyUCC

crossman47 wrote: »

Remember these few hundred will be dotted around the country. its not as if they can all form an orderly queue at one venue. Of course it will happen other age groups. it would be a miracle if it didn't. There will be recluses, people who refuse a vaccine, etc, etc.

HSE needs to learn from the over 80s and have a plan in place for those circumstances

Those people dotted around the country and the small GP practices will be there for other ages as well

I know my friends nana was in one of those small GP practices that up to this week hasn't received doses and has to cancel vaccinations

That practice has a list of over 70s and has submitted it to the HSE

Surely you combine the ages and get everybody in on just the one day bit like Sneem?

The HSE has an excuse for issues cropping up with the over 85s but not the age groups under it

Sweet.Science

Was it said how many they aim to do next week ?

Gael23

A family member working in a crèche got it today, does that seem right?

ACitizenErased

Paul Reid has said the additional 40-50k Pfizer jabs for this quarter have us on track for just under 1.2 million

crossman47

KrustyUCC wrote: »

That seems like very slow progress in the over 85s

200-300 done so far this week

That's less than 100 a day

You would hope such issues won't arise again in the next age groups

Remember these few hundred will be dotted around the country. its not as if they can all form an orderly queue at one venue. Of course it will happen other age groups. it would be a miracle if it didn't. There will be recluses, people who refuse a vaccine, etc, etc.

Hobgoblin11

What's going on with the waves? My understanding is we on these islands are in the midst of the third wave
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56359403

KrustyUCC

Apogee wrote: »

Reid: Over 85's. Previously 700/800 people via 65 GPs were outstanding. Now down to 500 outstanding via 30 GPs.

That seems like very slow progress in the over 85s

200-300 done so far this week

That's less than 100 a day

You would hope such issues won't arise again in the next age groups

Apogee

As of today, AZ still haven't confirmed how much they will deliver next week.

Apogee

Reid: Over 85's. Previously 700/800 people via 65 GPs were outstanding. Now down to 500 outstanding via 30 GPs.

Henry: Over 85s housebound/hospitalised will be grouped together with all over 70s housebound, and done on a regional basis via NAS. Estimate of 1400/1500 over 70s housebound.

KrustyUCC

Great figures

stephenjmcd

Apogee wrote: »

Look at rate of decrease in cases in the graph on right

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370017872869810176

Yeah just after seeing it. Absolutely phenomenal to see such a sharp drop. Real impact of vaccination being seen in healthcare settings

Apogee

Look at rate of decrease in cases in the graph on right

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370017872869810176

stephenjmcd

Apogee wrote: »

So they actually surpassed their target of 84K last week.

Yeah looks like it pending some more data being uploaded into the system

jackryan34

Sanjuro wrote: »

The problem I have with it is that the government seem to be doing absolutely **** all about the situation in this country and are relying on vaccines being the panacea to get us out of everything. They did nothing about hospital capacity. They did nothing about planning for mandatory quarantining. They had absolutely no plan put together with regards to the schools and the absolute mess that was since January. They're now talking about locking us down til May and possibly beyond with no sign of any planning for anything else. So yeah, this seems like a pointless exercise that's easy for the government to look like they're doing something.

Yeah it's very lazy alright

It's a bit like someone wanting to build muscle

Instead of having a good diet, good sleep, good excercise plan, working hard in the gym, living well

They don't bother with any of that and just take anabolic steriods

You know what? They would build far more muscle taking those anabolic steriods than any excercise, clean eating, sleep, working hard etc

Vaccine is the same principal, it is so good, so effective and like the steriods, all those things you listed like hospital beds, quarantine are not even needed.

Chris_5339762

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

J&J one-dose has just been approved

https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-medicines-agency-approves-johnson-johnson-one-shot-vaccine-5378150-Mar2021/

TheJournal are all on the ball, just avoid the comments section as usual

Since its been an hour or so, heres a selection of the good ones for posterity -

"AstraZeneca was not banned. It is anti British sentiment that is fuelling this non sensical narrative about the vaccine."

"I mean it’s been checked and approved. Unlike their baby powder, there’s people backing it. I’d take it on my backside on live TV if it meant I could get some pints!"

"Every silver lining has a cloud, eh?"

"Don’t get too excited. Ireland will be only drip fed to a time when the more powerful EU members are full. Unless Ireland fights its corner a bit better it will be left waiting for the scraps. Its like some animals are more equal than others in EU circles."

"EU must be seen to ACT against lies and bs excuses…enough waffle about contract law. Seize facilities, detain executives…"

"I prefer biontech/Pfizer & moderna than dont trust astrazeneca/Oxford happen develop blood clot dangerous"

And one thats actually not too bad

"Headache, tiredness, muscle pain and nausea.
Most people feel that on a Monday after a weekend in the pub. Bring it on!"

Danzy

Micky 32 wrote: »

The only reason we are hearing about them is because they had the vaccine. If they hadn’t we would have never heard about it.

Just say i had a dodgy ticker. As i left the doctors after my jab i unfortunately drop dead ( not because of the vaccine) i bet i’d make the news.

God be good to you.

Van.Bosch

Apogee wrote: »

No slide for next week... once bitten (by AZ), twice shy.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370016713329229825

That indicates to me cohort 2 is largely done in terms of first doses.

Apogee

No slide for next week... once bitten (by AZ), twice shy.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370016713329229825

Micky 32

Irish Stones wrote: »

Yes, but isn't that weird that some of those who died to blood clots had just received a dose of vaccine?
I mean, can it be a coincidence? Some of them were young and fit.

The only reason we are hearing about them is because they had the vaccine. If they hadn’t we would have never heard about it.

Just say i had a dodgy ticker. As i left the doctors after my jab i unfortunately drop dead ( not because of the vaccine) i bet i’d make the news.

Apogee

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Circa 87k vaccinations last week

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370016231835774980?s=19

So they actually surpassed their target of 84K last week.

Sanjuro

ACitizenErased wrote: »

If MM did nothing about it people would be complaining, now he wants to meet the CEO and it's 'pointless'.....

The problem I have with it is that the government seem to be doing absolutely **** all about the situation in this country and are relying on vaccines being the panacea to get us out of everything. They did nothing about hospital capacity. They did nothing about planning for mandatory quarantining. They had absolutely no plan put together with regards to the schools and the absolute mess that was since January. They're now talking about locking us down til May and possibly beyond with no sign of any planning for anything else. So yeah, this seems like a pointless exercise that's easy for the government to look like they're doing something.

stephenjmcd

Circa 87k vaccinations last week

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370016231835774980?s=19

Apogee

Reid: Cohort 4 to be identified by hospitals in Phase 1. Remainder identified via GPs in Phase 2.

13 vaccinations centres operational. Remainder opened based on supply - likely early April.

10,500 HCW trained as vaccinators.